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11-28-2005, 02:36 AM
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AQo, monotone flop.
Going through hands from a bad session. Button is a 50/12, somewhat aggressive over 24 hands. UTG is 31/4.5 loose passive.
PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, Button calls. Flop: (9.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Turn: (7.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button folds. River: (9.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 10.70 BB 
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#2
11-28-2005, 02:37 AM
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Re: AQo, monotone flop.
bet/call or c/c river. pot is big enough.
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#3
11-28-2005, 02:39 AM
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Re: AQo, monotone flop.
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bet/call or c/c river. pot is big enough. [/ QUOTE ] No. Hero clarked the turn, and it didn't phase villain. He's got a flush way too often here to consider calling.
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#4
11-28-2005, 02:40 AM
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Re: AQo, monotone flop.
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bet/call or c/c river. pot is big enough. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think he ever bets a hand I beat here on a 4-flush board. Certainly not 10% of the time.
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#5
11-28-2005, 10:00 AM
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Re: AQo, monotone flop.
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[ QUOTE ] bet/call or c/c river. pot is big enough. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think he ever bets a hand I beat here on a 4-flush board. Certainly not 10% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree with this. Even very passive players recognize that this is an obvious bluffing situation. And I also think that such players are capable of calling a bet without the flush. I vote for bet/fold.
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#6
11-28-2005, 02:12 PM
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Re: AQo, monotone flop.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] bet/call or c/c river. pot is big enough. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think he ever bets a hand I beat here on a 4-flush board. Certainly not 10% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree with this. Even very passive players recognize that this is an obvious bluffing situation. And I also think that such players are capable of calling a bet without the flush. I vote for bet/fold. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure that a passive player is going to be looking for a bluffing situation here. Most bluffs are going to be hands like missed draws and the major draw here already hit on the turn. If he has a medium strength hand I think he checks behind to see if he won. I'm also not sure I like the idea of investing 2 more BB once the 4-flush comes as at some point I have to give the player credit for a hand and I am just giving him money.
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#7
11-28-2005, 03:07 AM
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Re: AQo, monotone flop.
Weird hand. I'm not sure if I like the turn donk yet. I think checking and seeing what happens may be our best option. If UTG bets then I think we can safely muck. If button bets we can just call and then donk the river.
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#8
11-28-2005, 03:10 AM
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Re: AQo, monotone flop.
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Weird hand. I'm not sure if I like the turn donk yet. I think checking and seeing what happens may be our best option. If UTG bets then I think we can safely muck. If button bets we can just call and then donk the river. [/ QUOTE ] This was my biggest question as well. I wondered if I might get button to fold a better hand. I'm thinking any set calls, 2 pair may call, AK probably folds.
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#9
11-28-2005, 03:15 AM
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Re: AQo, monotone flop.
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[ QUOTE ] Weird hand. I'm not sure if I like the turn donk yet. I think checking and seeing what happens may be our best option. If UTG bets then I think we can safely muck. If button bets we can just call and then donk the river. [/ QUOTE ] This was my biggest question as well. I wondered if I might get button to fold a better hand. I'm thinking any set calls, 2 pair may call, AK probably folds. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think betting this to try to get AK to fold is a good idea. First of all, it will often still call down. Secondly, he will have the K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] occasionally as well. And we still have UTG to worry about.
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