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Old 12-05-2005, 11:50 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default KQo BB 6 hand

6 handed 75/150


folded to semilaggy button who opens. he's like 45/20, his range is pretty wide IMO.


anyhow, seif coldcalls in the SB, i call in the BB with KQo. flop AcTd2c

Seif checks, I check, Button bets, seif calls, I call

Turn Qs

Seif checks, I bet, both call


River 6d

Seif open folds, I bet
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: KQo BB 6 hand

I think this is a good value bet here.
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: KQo BB 6 hand

I like it. Did you give any thought to betting the flop? And what is Seif like?

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Old 12-06-2005, 12:34 AM
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Wierd. Is a turn donk better because a raise from button cleans up your outs and you don't have to call the river UI or is it simply beacuse he range is so large? There's nothing not to like about betting the river.
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: KQo BB 6 hand

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Wierd. Is a turn donk better because a raise from button cleans up your outs and you don't have to call the river UI or is it simply beacuse he range is so large? There's nothing not to like about betting the river.

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the flop turn combo was my biggest question. if seif had folded i would have c/r but as it stood i just called. any thoughts on teh turn?
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: KQo BB 6 hand

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Wierd. Is a turn donk better because a raise from button cleans up your outs and you don't have to call the river UI or is it simply beacuse he range is so large? There's nothing not to like about betting the river.

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the flop turn combo was my biggest question. if seif had folded i would have c/r but as it stood i just called. any thoughts on teh turn?

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I think the turn donk is the best of your options...it's somewhat transparent, but the dangerous nature of the board + 3way pot means that it'll keep their reactions relatively honest, and a c/r is definitely over the top, because many times you'll get it off but be behind.

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Old 12-06-2005, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: KQo BB 6 hand

whos seif? and why didnt you 3bet pf?
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: KQo BB 6 hand

mark seif, some donk who won some bracelets at this years wsop. I've never played with him though, so I can't say how good he is in these games.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:22 AM
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mark seif, some donk who won some bracelets at this years wsop. I've never played with him though, so I can't say how good he is in these games.

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usually i 3bet pf, but given my position to the pfr i want to be able to c/r good flops and trap the field in this case. also who knows how good my equity is, it really isn't worth it IMO.

(note: i'd 3bet if it was HU)
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: KQo BB 6 hand

i dont like the turn bet. the lag could decide you dont have an A and might want to test you. then what? you are giving up a possible best hand plus outs. the only way i could like it is if you planned to call a turn raise and fold the river UI, which is probably only correct against someone whose play you know fairly well
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