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Old 10-23-2004, 03:15 PM
donkeyradish donkeyradish is offline
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Default Tight play wins the money? Pokertracker says not!

Since pokertracker started 'autorating players' I wondered which of the profile types was winning the most $. My database has about 8000 hands in it, not a lot but this isn't about my own stats. Its about everyone elses.

Only rating players with 30+ hands played in my database, I have a wide spectrum of player types. Using the filter option I can see how each group does on the summary page.

The 4 groups who lose the money:

sLP-P (-8 BB per 100 hands)
sLA-P (-6 BB per 100 hands)
LA-P and LP-P (-5 BB per 100 hands)
Maniac (-1 BB per 100 hands)


Then there is a group who roughly break even
TP-P. LP-A, TA-P, TA-N

Now the surprising part
TA-A, the group I've been trying to emulate win 3BB/100
TP-A do about the same.
sLP-A win twice as much, near to 7BB/100 and
sLA-A win twice as much as that, 14BB/100!!

BUT streaks ahead are LA-A who win 22BB/100 hands !?!!?
Of all the LA-A players in my databse, 80% are winners.

These are aggressive players with a VP$IP averaging 45%?!?!

Pokertracker seems to be telling me:

Be aggressive, be very aggressive, and play one hand in every two! Can this be true? Surely not

I must be missing something obvious here. What is it??

(Ratings based on 8,000 hands involving 7-10 players at a mixture of limits, $0.5/$1 $1/$2 and $2/$4)
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: Tight play wins the money? Pokertracker says not!

Go ahead and play 25% of your hands. Let us know how that works out for you.
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Tight play wins the money? Pokertracker says not!

Go ahead and play 25% of your hands. Let us know how that works out for you.

ummm didnt Astroglide play almost that many? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: Tight play wins the money? Pokertracker says not!

I must be missing something obvious here. What is it??

its SOOOO obvious, just read the last statement you made!!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Post this stuff in the general forum
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: Tight play wins the money? Pokertracker says not!

ummm didnt Astroglide play almost that many?

Everyone on this forum who thinks they can play as well as Astroglide, please take one step forward. Not so fast, 99% of you.
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: Tight play wins the money? Pokertracker says not!

Everyone on this forum who thinks they can play as well as Astroglide, please take one step forward. Not so fast, 99% of you.

You know I was kidding, right? [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Tight play wins the money? Pokertracker says not!


Um well thanks for the suggestion but it goes against all my instincts

My VP$IP is 12% and I thought I was doing fine till I looked at those stats.

How do LA-A players look in your database bisonbison?
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Tight play wins the money? Pokertracker says not!

You know I was kidding, right?

I do not have a sense of humor.
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Tight play wins the money? Pokertracker says not!

How do LA-A players look in your database bisonbison?

It doesn't matter.
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Tight play wins the money? Pokertracker says not!

I do not have a sense of humor.

how do you survive your trips to the bathroom?
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