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Old 12-13-2005, 08:16 AM
The Truth The Truth is offline
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4 handed.

I have the button with 9c9h

UTG raises, I 3 bet, blinds fold, utg calls.

Flop 8h Th Qc
utg checks, i bet, utg raises, I call.

Turn Kh
utg bets, I raise, utg calls

river 4s
he checks, I check

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Old 12-13-2005, 08:19 AM
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I just call the turn and fold the river UI. I don't think he's folding stuff much and getting 3 bet sucks, plus we're just wasting an extra BB.
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:25 AM
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yeah i'm a psycho on the turn and even i dont raise there.
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:32 AM
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I wanted to show this hand down no?

If the turn was a baby heart instead of the king do you like the raise then?

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Old 12-13-2005, 08:39 AM
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i like the raise more so if it's a wee heart.
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:47 AM
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I dont think many people fold here with a strong hand so i call turn with odds or fold.

No read so ...
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:04 AM
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I dont think many people fold here with a strong hand so i call turn with odds or fold.

No read so ...

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The turn raise isn't a bluff by any means. He will fold a T around 50% of the time, so that is just a bonus. He is calling with a T +any draw.

He is likely to play any A this way I think. So he will fold A high hands, and hands that have some outs to me that I am ahead of now.

He will also play some draws this way. I hope to win at showdown 15% of the time or so.

It is probably better to just call and fold the river unimproved. I may have been looking to push something that wasn't available.


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Old 12-13-2005, 09:54 AM
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yeh you've got 6 outs and MAY FOLD a better hand.

However i dont think it's good enough to raise. Bet if checked to sure, but raising is a pretty strong move and after him betting i don't know if he's folding often enough.

Also, say he holds A8o, Don't you want him to bet and bet the river too?

i think its costly when behind and fails to make him bluff when ahead.

Also if your raising the turn i think you may have to Bet/Fold the river. Its a last ditch attempt for him to fold and i dont think we want a showdown.

i'd probably of gone with:

Bet flop, Call raise.
call the turn
Fold or Bet the river.

i dont think he will bet A8 on the river, but lack of reads makes this impossible to say
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