Basic ROI questions

KneeCo · #1 10-10-2005, 01:33 AM

when calculating your MTT ROI, how do you account for tournaments that you won a seat in?
Is investment limited to the price of the sattelite? What do you do in the case of PP/FPP sats?

#2 10-10-2005, 01:38 AM

ROI = Profit/Money put in

If you win a $1 sattelite to the WSOP and then win it, your ROI is (7.5 million - 1)/1 = 750 million %.

PP and FPP tournies are basically freerolls (in a sense, you paid for them earlier with your rake, which should already be in your ROI), and should not change the denominator at all. The profit definitely counts though.

TomHimself · #3 10-10-2005, 01:39 AM

no ur roi is what the buyin is, ur wrong. so if u play a 10k buyin and getin from 100$ u still use the 10k when doing the math

Exitonly · #4 10-10-2005, 03:35 AM

yea, you gotta count the satelite win just the same as $10,000. so your profit will still be massive (a total of 10,001 in buyins for 7,010,000 in winnings...

bmxreed36 · #5 10-10-2005, 04:03 AM

If I won the WSOP main event, I don't think I'd be too worried about what my ROI was [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Wyers · #6 10-10-2005, 04:54 AM

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If I won the WSOP main event, I don't think I'd be too worried about what my ROI was [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Preach on brother.... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

AceHiStation · #7 10-10-2005, 10:27 AM

And I'm sure this has been done before too...

You hear people throw out optimal winning %s in cash games. "An excellent player can beat the $3/$6NL game for 10BB/100 hands." Is there such a thing for multi-tables? I'm basically curious because I'm way above what optimal would be in a very small sample size of 24 super tourneys.

Thanks,
-Ace

Exitonly · #8 10-10-2005, 03:06 PM

well considering you WON one of those 24, you could have blanked in the other 23 and still have a sweet inflated ROI. Theres no standard ROI for good players in mtt's (atleast not that i've seen anyywhere) but 100-200% seems to be a normal range, though i think up to 400% or so is possible.

benneh · #9 10-10-2005, 03:24 PM

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ROI = Profit/Money put in

If you win a $1 sattelite to the WSOP and then win it, your ROI is (7.5 million - 1)/1 = 750 million %.

PP and FPP tournies are basically freerolls (in a sense, you paid for them earlier with your rake, which should already be in your ROI), and should not change the denominator at all. The profit definitely counts though.

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you are still investing 10 grand into the wsop, not $1.