something from ssh im doing wrong

[scotnt73]

Just finished SSH. Excellent excellent book Ed thanks.

i found one part troubling because it brought out a mistake of mine. its the section about AQ where it talks about folding AQ vs a preflop raiser because you are likely dominated. even if hes tight i never do this. i play AQ like i would AK. am i way off base? thanks.

[InchoateHand]

I think I distinguish heavily between AQs and AQo here, and I think your line has to be read dependent. Against a rock AQo and AQs are almost equally likely to be tossed. Against a 2+2er, I'll probably three-bet, because he/she could easily be holding KQo, AJo, 99 or any other hand I want to see a flop with. AQ for me is like JJ in NL--you really have to pick your places based on a number of factors.

[Fnord]

It depends on the raiser.

Consider that most of our opponents play too many hands too passivly. Hence, I see a lot of ~5% and under PRF players. With such a narrow range of raising hands, folding can't be a big mistake. However, against pre-flop aggressive players or a position raise, AQo is a marginal 3-bet.

For the most part, attacking weakness means getting out of the way of a pre-flop raiser without a strong holding or at least a flush/set to fall back on...

[BigBaitsim (milo)]

Depending on the raiser and my read, I either fold this or three-bet it. I'd say I three-bet it 2/3 and fold 1/3.

[sthief09]

for me AQo is an auto 3-bet, but that's just me

[Joe Tall]

Here are two AQo hands I played versus the same opponent. The opponent is a local tight aggressive pro. We were in a very good 20/40 game at Foxwoods.

Hand#1
TAG opens from UTG+1 and I fold AQo in MP.

Hand#2
Terrible loose player limps in EP, TAG raises in MP and I 3-bet on the button w/AQo.
Flop: xxx rainbow
Check to me and I bet, Limper folds and the TAG says, "you've got me beat; piece of the board or not."

Peace,
Joe Tall

[Fnord]

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for me AQo is an auto 3-bet, but that's just me

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Boring player from UTG+1 raises, folded to you with AQo in the CO. Auto 3-bet?!?!?

[BottlesOf]

Certainly not "auto" if you need to ask.

But whether or not to 3-bet? Um..."boring" isn't enough of a description. Passive? then fold. Weak post flop? Then 3-bet.

[Malcom Reynolds]

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for me AQo is an auto 3-bet, but that's just me

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Really? Aren't you just begging to be dominated then, by playing shorthanded or headsup against the pre-flop raiser?

Lot of the short stakes games I play people only like to raise pocket pairs and AK. I'd only 3-bet vs. someone I've noted who will raise with a wide variety of hands.

[scotnt73]

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Here are two AQo hands I played versus the same opponent. The opponent is a local tight aggressive pro. We were in a very good 20/40 game at Foxwoods.

Hand#1
TAG opens from UTG+1 and I fold AQo in MP.

Hand#2
Terrible loose player limps in EP, TAG raises in MP and I 3-bet on the button w/AQo.
Flop: xxx rainbow
Check to me and I bet, Limper folds and the TAG says, "you've got me beat; piece of the board or not."

Peace,
Joe Tall

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i can completely agree with you. however i dont consider 20/40 small stakes. can you really ever fold AQ preflop at Party 2/4 and 3/6 just because someone raised in front of you?