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Old 12-30-2005, 02:12 PM
TheHammer24 TheHammer24 is offline
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Default Wierd Hand

SB is a timid 5.5/4.5 while UTG was 75/24/1

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero....and what does he do for the rest of the hand?

I raised feeling if I could conceivably invoke MUBS and get SB to fold my equity was through the roof. I didn't give UTG much credit.
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: Wierd Hand

ok think about what will happen if you raise:
1)SB will fold and UTG will call or 3-bet (doesnt matter which)
MAN THIS IS FREAKING AWESOME YAY!!!
2)SB calls, UTG 3-bets/calls
MAN THIS FREAKIN SUCKS YOU PUT IN A BUNCH OF BIG BETS BEHIND SB
3) SB 3-bets
POW I JUST SHOT MYSELF.

the pot is 10 BB's you are putting in 2. if SB folds you will almost certaintly win. do some EV calcs on this im jumping in the shower.
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Wierd Hand

3-bet the freakin flop!??! Why are you smooth calling there?
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: Wierd Hand

Why not just 3-bet the flop?
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Wierd Hand

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1)SB will fold and UTG will call or 3-bet (doesnt matter which)
MAN THIS IS FREAKING AWESOME YAY!!!

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Agree.

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2)SB calls, UTG 3-bets/calls
MAN THIS FREAKIN SUCKS YOU PUT IN A BUNCH OF BIG BETS BEHIND SB

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If UTG just calls this doesn't suck. Well, we're behind almost always but it would have cost the same to call down, but by raising we're at least getting a chance to fold AK from SB or even a hand like QQ.

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3) SB 3-bets
POW I JUST SHOT MYSELF.

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Getting 3-betted by any of the 2 other players would suck though.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:02 PM
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The first error in this hand is preflop and it's big. The second is the flop. We should not have gotten to this awkward situation on the turn at all. Now that we're here I'm raising.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:20 PM
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The first error in this hand is preflop and it's big.

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What's wrong with his preflop play?
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: Wierd Hand

If you have a good amount of hand versus the SB, capping preflop may not gain you all that much with the SB super tight PFR range.

3-bet this flop, if the SB has AK, you've got a good chance to blow it off since he seems so weak and you can face the LAG HU.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:26 PM
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Do you really thinkg SB is 3-Betting this pf w.o JJ-AA with those stats? I capped pf to take control of the hand in position. On the flop, a 3-bet puts a lot of bets in there when I'm likely behind of SB. If he caps it sucks. Anyway, I haven't played in like 2 weeks, so my game is off. I lost 25 BB's last night, which isn't out of the ordinary, but I would have like a decent winning session.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:28 PM
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You get 3bet preflop by a weakie who raises pf 4.5% of the time? And you cap? You'll need a J to win 95% of the time here, capping is spewage.

Now SB donks the flop, so you have 8-1 from the pot with probably 2 outs. Nice. Calling is absolutely HORRIBLE. If you 3bet, you can get UTG to donate with his 77 or whatever, and SB, could have AdKd I guess. I'm probably folding though.
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