river play with a set (6 handed $400 NL)

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Taking a shot at the Party 400 game, my usual game is the 100 NL (the $200 wait lists and general poor games have led me to this - just 1 table of 400 now and again while 3 tabling the 100s to cover the jump).

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

PT stats for UTG: 19 / 6 from about 30 hands, so seemingly tight and decent, no other reads.

Button ($244.5)
SB ($1120.4)
BB ($374)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($396)</font>
MP ($251)
Hero ($592.2)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, Button calls $8, SB (poster) calls $6, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($40) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $16</font>, Hero calls $16, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($72) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100</font>, UTG calls $84.

River: ($272) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG bets $272 (All-In), Hero ?

Is not rasing the flop inexcusable?

Given how I played it, what's the river play?

Thanks a lot.

[flawless_victory]

?? CALL.

[PoBoy321]

Definitely raise the flop. Given the play, I put UTG on either A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Obviously, you're ahead of one and not the other. Very difficult river decision, but I would call.

[foldem]

Definitely need to raise the flop. It really doesn't seem like the river is being bet for value here so you should call and expect to win more often than 1/3.

[Yeknom58]

Whats wrong with the 200 games..are the 400 games better? My normal game is the 200 and they seem pretty good to me..am I way wrong?


With the Button and SB left to act I'd probably pot the flop almost expecting someone to call with a drawing hand.

I think you can call on the river profitably.

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Whats wrong with the 200 games..are the 400 games better? My normal game is the 200 and they seem pretty good to me..am I way wrong?

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I don't play them, so you would know better than me how they are.

I just find the waiting lists to be annoyingly long and the avg pot sizes relatively small, and I had theorised that the people who get through the waiting list are likely to be more persistant and, on average, better players. Possibly not a valid assumption.

I have emailed Party asking why they don't open up some PL 6 handed games, to match the offerings at higher tables, but just got a standard response about having forwarded my request to the marketing dept.

I guess I'll rethink this if the consensus is there's nothing wrong with the 6 handed 200s.

Cheers,
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[Cornell Fiji]

The way it stands I would call.

I also would have raised the flop to around 50. This allows you make a big turn bet and and knock off the gutshot straight draws.

-Steve

[technologic]

uh...why are we not raising the flop?

[vector]

Greed. I feared knocking out TP there, and told myself I would not be spewing chips if the turn was a spade, and accept the risk of killing my action if I was still good.

But in retrospect I'm aware this is crappy reasoning, and next time I'll raise the flop.

[Jeff W]

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seemingly tight and decent, no other reads.

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From his play in this hand, regardless of what he held, villain is not decent.

Raise the pot on the flop.

Call the river.