Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-21-2005, 11:26 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 144
Default Re: AQ RIVER TP. LELAISE OR CALL?

[ QUOTE ]
Seems like a way behind way ahead situation here,

[/ QUOTE ]
yo tex, we have already made it to the river, so how far ahead or behind we are is irrelevant. the race is over.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-21-2005, 11:30 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: AQ RIVER TP. LELAISE OR CALL?

I guess that line has been used too many times in a different context for it to be app. here.

EDIT: you're killing everything, try and c'r. if he three bets, be sure to puke on the pot when he shows you quad ducks.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-21-2005, 11:21 PM
4thstreetpete 4thstreetpete is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 167
Default Re: AQ RIVER TP. LELAISE OR CALL?

I like a LELAISE here but only 1 time.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-22-2005, 06:02 AM
DeeJ DeeJ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Fold
Posts: 396
Default Re: AQ RIVER TP. LELAISE OR CALL?

My immediate response was 3-bet, but if you look at the hand range he may have - if he's got Q9, or 22/QQ/KK/AA, then he's mostly got you. Will he really raise the river with KQ (or AQ), since you capped preflop? Don't know, but calling the raise starts to look more wise than 3-betting it up.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-22-2005, 06:19 AM
elindauer elindauer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 292
Default Re: AQ RIVER TP. LELAISE OR CALL?

Questions: what range of hands will he 3-bet? What is your hand range on the river?

I need the answers to these questions to go much farther, but my guess is that your range is fairly wide and AQ is near the top. I'll also guess that AQ beats lots of hands that he could have reached the river with, so a 3-bet is going to be at least in the mix for this hand. This probably coincides nicely with your intuition and is exactly why you're not sure of the answer... the answer is both.

good luck.
eric
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-22-2005, 08:10 AM
roy_miami roy_miami is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 104
Default Re: AQ RIVER TP. LELAISE OR CALL?

I would say he's folding KQ or worse to the 3-bet and capping or calling with KK or better so the only value to 3-betting would be to possibly fold another AQ.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-22-2005, 02:51 PM
phish phish is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 47
Default Re: AQ RIVER TP. LELAISE OR CALL?

[ QUOTE ]
I would say he's folding KQ or worse to the 3-bet and capping or calling with KK or better so the only value to 3-betting would be to possibly fold another AQ.

[/ QUOTE ]

uh...yeah, right.

But seriously, if only all your hands were this easy.

3rd, the title of your post can be construed (probably correctly) as a racist insult. Do you really feel the need to muddy up a hand discussion with such a pointless (and not funny) 'joke'.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-22-2005, 03:49 PM
irishpint irishpint is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: what you want, G?
Posts: 1,249
Default Re: AQ RIVER TP. LELAISE OR CALL?

[ QUOTE ]


3rd, the title of your post can be construed (probably correctly) as a racist insult. Do you really feel the need to muddy up a hand discussion with such a pointless (and not funny) 'joke'.

[/ QUOTE ]

OMG who are you? if i call you a p ussy will you be offended?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-22-2005, 04:38 PM
elindauer elindauer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 292
Default Re: AQ RIVER TP. LELAISE OR CALL?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


3rd, the title of your post can be construed (probably correctly) as a racist insult. Do you really feel the need to muddy up a hand discussion with such a pointless (and not funny) 'joke'.

[/ QUOTE ]

OMG who are you? if i call you a p ussy will you be offended?

[/ QUOTE ]

My name is Eric Lindauer. I agree that lelaise in this context can be construed as a racial slur, and that it is probably intended, and certainly unecessary.

You can call me all the names you want, and since I don't know you, you'll have a hard time offending me. I'll probably be inclined to think of you as a dimwitted nobody who isn't smart enough to come up with something insightful to say and feels the need to replace wit with mud slinging. Sadly, such people seem to thrive in the anonymity of cyber space.

good luck.
Eric
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-23-2005, 04:49 AM
bernie bernie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: seattle!!!__ too sunny to be in a cardroom....ahhh, one more hand
Posts: 3,752
Default Re: AQ RIVER TP. LELAISE OR CALL?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


3rd, the title of your post can be construed (probably correctly) as a racist insult. Do you really feel the need to muddy up a hand discussion with such a pointless (and not funny) 'joke'.

[/ QUOTE ]

OMG who are you? if i call you a p ussy will you be offended?

[/ QUOTE ]

My name is Eric Lindauer. I agree that lelaise in this context can be construed as a racial slur, and that it is probably intended, and certainly unecessary.

You can call me all the names you want, and since I don't know you, you'll have a hard time offending me. I'll probably be inclined to think of you as a dimwitted nobody who isn't smart enough to come up with something insightful to say and feels the need to replace wit with mud slinging. Sadly, such people seem to thrive in the anonymity of cyber space.

good luck.
Eric

[/ QUOTE ]

So you're saying you've never heard that term in a cardroom? I hear it all the time. Along with 'Ni Han.' It's actually common enough that it's almost typical banter in a cardroom and not a racial slur.

You can blame asians for popularizing those terms as they seem to be the ones I hear going out of their way in using them the most.

b
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.