Party vs Stars

utmt40 · #1 05-19-2005, 06:35 PM

Ok I have played SNGs at both Party and Stars. I have personally grown to like the Stars SNGs because of the players there (they seem to know a little more about cards) and the fact you get 1500 starting chips. On Party you only get the 800. What is the benefit of playing with only 800 chips and at Party as to playing at Stars? Wouldnt you rather start with more chips?

Voltron87 · #2 05-19-2005, 06:37 PM

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I really should ignore this post after that comment... but I'm a glutton for pain.

I would rather play at a site which gives me less chips and has faster blinds so I can get to the bubble quicker, which is where my edge is. The SNGs are also quicker at party, I will accept a lower ROI if I play more games.

pooh74 · #3 05-19-2005, 06:39 PM

I have personally grown to like the Stars SNGs because of the players there (they seem to know a little more about cards)

? sounds great

Sidekick · #4 05-19-2005, 06:44 PM

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This is a big reason to prefer playing at Party. Stronger opponents will make it harder to win money, not easier.

The smaller chips stacks and faster blinds at Party cause most SnGs there to be over in about 45 minutes on average. If you are playing the standard Poker Stars SnGs, then you can expect the SnG to last closer to 75 minutes.

The quicker tournament time plus the (slightly) fishier waters at Party make it a favored choice by those seeking to maximize their earnings.

There is nothing wrong with preferring one site over the other, but if you are looking at the sites based purely on how much you can earn an hour at SnGs, then Party would be a clear favorite.

You are correct in that having more chips to start with will give an advantage to the more skillful player over time.

So, if you are just a recreational player that is looking for enjoyment, play at PS by all means. If however, you are looking to maximize your earnings, then choose Party.

Just IMO.

utmt40 · #5 05-19-2005, 06:54 PM

I have done well in both places and since I have learned a little more about how to play and what to play I like playing with better people. I feel like it makes me a better player. Secondly, I can see what you mean about Party but for the most part at Party I feel so short stacked starting out and I don't really like it when people are just pushing chips in the middle every two or three hands. Do you see what I am saying? I plan on playing some or the 22s and/or 10s tonight there and see how I do since I have now gotten more accustomed to the larger chip stack.

Sidekick · #6 05-19-2005, 07:01 PM

I play at both Party and Poker Stars 5 days a week usually, so I know where you are coming from.

I prefer the format at PS and play the turbos there (much closer to the same time duration as Party), but I am able to make more money playing at Party/skins.

I much prefer the software and customer support at PS to that of Party, but that is a different thread.

Basically each site just has a different style and mindset (at least IMO). I keep playing at both, because I feel it improves my game to be able to shift between one and the other. I believe it makes my game more adaptable.

utmt40 · #7 05-19-2005, 07:21 PM

Thats really good thinking...

jpg7n16 · #8 05-19-2005, 07:32 PM

So if the players are better at Stars, wouldn't playing at Stars make you a better overall player?

We should all think long-term right? Long-term, the better you are, the more you'll make. Right?

Voltron87 · #9 05-19-2005, 07:34 PM

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So if the players are better at Stars, wouldn't playing at Stars make you a better overall player?

We should all think long-term right? Long-term, the better you are, the more you'll make. Right?

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nice try, but no.

gumpzilla · #10 05-19-2005, 07:38 PM

You're not offering a very convincing rebuttal, Voltron.

Playing against better opposition will not prep you to blow up Party 22s or 33s; it might however give you a stronger foundation/more experience to allow for moving beyond that at some point, and it almost certainly will be more useful if you plan to ever play any kind of big bet poker other than SNGs. I don't think there's a real clear-cut answer to this.

And, as I like to say when people start whining about it, although a good player will benefit from playing the fishiest fish available, a mediocre player who plays in a style that does reasonably well at exploiting tighter fish but loses to the fishiest fish could conceivably be better off playing those tighter fish if he/she doesn't know how to adjust to the loose ones.