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Old 10-24-2005, 01:25 AM
crazy canuck crazy canuck is offline
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Default Re: Does Party Blackjack Affect MGR

Thanks sniper, I stand corrected...I'm an idiot. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I ignored the affiliate gain part.

However, it still works if you team up with a deadbeat affiliate...i.e. the affiliate doesn't pay party if you win
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Old 10-24-2005, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: Does Party Blackjack Affect MGR

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However, it still works if you team up with a deadbeat affiliate...i.e. the affiliate doesn't pay party if you win
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"Deadbeat" is the wrong word here.

Negative affiliate balances offset current and future earnings but they are not debts. Party never expects an affiliate to "send money" to cover losses. They just won't pay him again unless/until his account goes positive. That's what makes the scenario described in my earlier post work.

One good reason for Party's decision to continue the ban on rakeback arises when the affiliate is an unknowing accomplice. If the player loses the RB affiliate assumes the player has been playing lots of poker and pays up without question. He will continue paying until one month the player gets his big win. Suddenly the player's tracker tanks and the affiliate eats the loss.
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:58 AM
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Why would your friend agree to pay party $40 if you win and pay you $40 if you lose?

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Hey that's what i call a real friend [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-24-2005, 10:57 AM
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crazy... the affiliate participates in wins and losses... if you win $200, it costs the affiliate $40. (ie they are partners, if you win, you've won $160 from Party and $40 from the affiliate; and if you lose, you've lost $160 to Party and $40 to the affiliate)

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Where does it say the affiliate covers your wins?

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Nowhere does it say this.
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Does Party Blackjack Affect MGR

Food for thought. If you could get a 25% RB with Party (too bad this is not possible) including your play on BJ it would be +EV to play BJ. The house percentage is right around 2% (if your play perfect basic strategy) but you would be getting 5% back (25% of 20%)for a net gain of 3% on all your action.
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:30 PM
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Nowhere does it say this, if basic addition and subtraction are too hard for you to understand.

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FYP
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:42 PM
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Nowhere does it say this, if basic addition and subtraction are too hard for you to understand.

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What I think is still unclear though, is what happens if an affiliate has a negative balance. I seriously doubt the affiliate has to pay Party, normally it would be taken out of the affiliates other revenue, or next month's revenue, etc., but what about a hit and run affiliate/player combo like the scenario discussed further up in this thread? It seems like it would work. Of course this would be so much trouble that it seems like it wouldn't be worth it as far as hourly rate goes, plus the chance of party catching on and seizing the players funds, etc.
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Old 10-24-2005, 04:11 PM
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This would only work if you made exactly ONE bet per month.
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Old 10-24-2005, 05:34 PM
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This would only work if you made exactly ONE bet per month.

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What is being contemplated is only making one bet period. Before signing up on a new name and new affiliate. Otherwise it doesn't work.
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Old 10-24-2005, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: Does Party Blackjack Affect MGR

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Nowhere does it say this, if basic addition and subtraction are too hard for you to understand.

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Why don't you quote something from party that's leading you to your conclusion? Just because other casinos have done it this way, doesn't mean party will.
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