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This is Toddys hand but different. I found it interesting since I misread it at first but I found something that may be a leak in my game. Take a look.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t2588)
BB (t1910)
UTG (t3290)
UTG+1 (t4740)
Hero (t8787)
MP2 (t2040)
MP3 (t2705)
CO (t720)
Button (t3200)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of t150.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls t350, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t1050) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t400</font>, Hero calls t400.

Turn: (t1850) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t500</font>, Hero ...

Final Pot: t3850

The thing that I was "worried" about in Toddys thread was that I like to flatcall this flop thinking I can get cheap away from the hand if another club comes on the turn but how are you guys thinking about cold calling or raising it here?

I would play it with a cold call and then push/raise any non club turn.

[schwza]

i think that's an okay way to play it. my standard would be to jam the flop, but i can't think of any good reason why your line is worse.

First of all, you really love the word flop don't you [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. I never realized 4th street was called a flop aswell [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. But hey I just like nitpicking.

Back to the hand: I would wonder what hands Villain would bet on this flop. To get Hero to define his hand better I would've bet more towards 1/2 or 3/4 of the pot. That bet would represent a bigger hand. Betting less than half the pot seems to me most of the time like a cheap way to try to steal the pot. Villain isn't defining his hand either with this bet, the flop is way too coordinated for that so I would raise him another 400 to make him define his hand. If he was stealing he folds, if he was on a big flushdraw he probably pushes and you are getting way too good odds on your money to fold.

Bastard [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Didn't notice that until now, thanks for the nitpick. It's edited now.

Interesting thought on the hand, but wouldn't a push here be the best choice of a push and a raise since a push here may scare away him if he only got one club and a raise will prolly be called down because of the pot odds. I think I like the push here most since I would call the push from him and a push from me have the potential to scare away one club. Thoughts?

[Toddy]

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This is Toddys hand but different. I found it interesting since I misread it at first but I found something that may be a leak in my game. Take a look.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t2588)
BB (t1910)
UTG (t3290)
UTG+1 (t4740)
Hero (t8787)
MP2 (t2040)
MP3 (t2705)
CO (t720)
Button (t3200)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of t150.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls t350, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t1050) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t400</font>, Hero calls t400.

Turn: (t1850) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t500</font>, Hero ...

Final Pot: t3850

The thing that I was "worried" about in Toddys thread was that I like to flatcall this flop thinking I can get cheap away from the hand if another club comes on the turn but how are you guys thinking about cold calling or raising it here?

I would play it with a cold call and then push/raise any non club turn.

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Ya now looking at it and with all the good advice I had to definetly push after the turn! It would have been a shame if he had A2 (with the 2 being a club) and losing because I didn't push.