this hand made no sense; i am a fish

#1 10-30-2005, 09:40 AM

no reads cause its ub. in fact as far as i know ive never played in this level at ub before.

I was trying to checkraise the PFR on the flop, but someone else took the lead so i figured i should just wait for the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP raises, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

River: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG raises, MP folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

KeysrSoze · #2 10-30-2005, 09:46 AM

Fold pf, anyone?

#3 10-30-2005, 09:50 AM

any chance we can just ignore preflop here?

didnt think so..... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

BatsShadow · #4 10-30-2005, 09:59 AM

Do you also fold 78s or 89s in this situation?

Aaron_ · #5 10-30-2005, 10:03 AM

Please fold this preflop OOP (and in position).. but I'll ignore it.

I have to put UTG on a set of fives or threes here unless he's very agro post flop. Since my odds are close anyway, I'm folding the flop.

Aaron_ · #6 10-30-2005, 10:08 AM

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Do you also fold 78s or 89s in this situation?

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Hands like that play best in unraised, multiway pots. This one is neither. Really tighten up in a raised pot even if you have position.

#7 10-30-2005, 10:09 AM

without reads, yes and yes. every time.

if anyone else had posted this i would have berated them for not folding preflop and ignored the rest of the hand...

but i actually dont play too seriously on this site, and forgot that i had played this badly preflop when i posted the hand, the rest of which i actually found fairly interesting

#8 10-30-2005, 10:15 AM

err... GIVEN preflop bad play (assume the wrong button was pushed by accident)

i would have thought the points of contention were:
flop - bet out
or once bet, checkraise or call?

turn - donk or checkraise?

and river - 3bet or accept kicker troubles?

i dont think folding at any point post flop is possible... imo at least

the main reason i post is for the total lack of consistency in the hand, people are just donking and coming to life all over the place, with no respect, or dialogue leading to effective hand ranges

BatsShadow · #9 10-30-2005, 10:17 AM

I guess I've played too much 6max lately.

To Aaron: I do know about folding to raises, I was just thinking that the blind softens the blow of playing this draw heavy hand.

Forget the SB then, how many players do we need total to play these from the BB?

BatsShadow · #10 10-30-2005, 10:19 AM

I personally put UTG on a 9 better kicker...A9s if he's a sold player. I think you have to pay him off though.