I need an E-Hug

Mercman572 · #1 10-29-2005, 02:22 AM

So over the last few days I have been playing poker room for their bonus. Big mistake. The play is different than antyhing I've seen before, opponents are so concerned with winning each individual pot (minraising usually) That I'm sometimes left paying off people when I shouldn't be or folding best hands too often. I think I've been adjusting ok, but I'm getting killed with these bad beats and bad situations and I'm trying hard not to tilt. If I played any of these wrong please let me know (I don't think I played any of them optimally but am not going to try and disguise this from being a sort of bad beat post), they're just over the last 2 days and its the first time I've gotten whooped so consistently. I know the bad beats aren't really welcome, I just need some reassurance and advice since my money on the site has dropped to $470 and I don't know if I should reload, or drop limits and play only 1 or 2 tables to cool off for a while and get a feel for the site or something and get some easy money while I recoup[. I guess I'm shook from this bit of variance.

The first of many: Villain is a total rock. 12/3/1.5 after 200 hands. He could only have AA or KK given preflop action
PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

($89)
UTG ($26)
UTG+1 ($110.20)
MP1 ($118.20)
MP2 ($103.90)
CO ($171.25)
Button ($82.70)
SB ($19.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 1010
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $2, HERO raises to $8, 2 folds, Button calls $6, 1 fold, raises to $11, UTG+1 folds, Hero Calls, Button calls $5.

Flop: ($30.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
 bets $12, Hero raises to $36, Button folds, calls $12.

Turn: ($78.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
checks, wcourt1 bets $83.2 (All-In), calls $54 (All-In).

River: ($215.70) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $215.70

Results in white below: 
has Kc Kd (full house, kings full of fives).
Hero has (full house, tens full of fives).
Outcome: wins $215.70. 

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

($89)
MP1 ($104)
MP2 ($97.10)
MP3 ($48.80)
CO ($86.10)
HERO ($111.95)
SB ($38.90)
BB ($74)
UTG ($102)
UTG+1 ($212.40)

Preflop: is with AA
5 folds, MP3 raises to $5, 2 folds Hero Calls , BB calls $4.

Flop: ($11) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP3 bets $5, Hero raises to $25, BB folds, MP3 calls $15.

Turn: ($51) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $24, MP3 calls $23.80 (All-In).

River: ($98.80) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $98.80

Results in white below: 
MP3 has Ad Qd (three of a kind, queens).
HERO has (Two Pair, Aces and queens).
Outcome: MP3 wins $98.80. 

I try to give 5max $50 buy-in a shot and single table to cool off. Bad move, I look down at KK in my first orbit [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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($63)
BB ($49.25)
UTG ($16.65)
MP ($68.05)
Button ($89)

Preflop: is with KK
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button raises to $1, 1 fold, HERO raises to $5.25, UTG folds, Button raises to $16, HERO raises (43.75 $16, Button calls $33.25.

Flop: ($55) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: ($55) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($55) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $55

Results in white below: 
Hero doesn't show (KK).
Button has Ah Ad (two pair, aces and nines).
Outcome: Button wins $55.

#2 10-29-2005, 02:36 AM

Ehh, just a string of bad beats. I don't see any glaring mistakes from your play, just a couple nasty draw outs. Your lines still appear to be +EV in my opinion.

Malachii · #3 10-29-2005, 02:42 AM

These are all simply bad luck.

On hand 3, call his preflop reraise and checkraise all in. I'm assuming you have no reads for any of these hands. Work on that.

Mercman572 · #4 10-29-2005, 02:43 AM

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These are all simply bad luck.

On hand 3, call his preflop reraise and checkraise all in. I'm assuming you have no reads for any of these hands. Work on that.

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?? First hand I had a read that villain was a super rock and would be married to an overpair. The other player had just been seated in hand 2, and I had just sat in hand 3.

#5 10-29-2005, 02:46 AM

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These are all simply bad luck.

On hand 3, call his preflop reraise and checkraise all in. I'm assuming you have no reads for any of these hands. Work on that.

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?? First hand I had a read that villain was a super rock and would be married to an overpair. The other player had just been seated in hand 2, and I had just sat in hand 3.

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Regardless, you're not getting away from the nut boat on the turn, and it'd be hard as hell to drop AA with a board like that. (Until the river)

Malachii · #6 10-29-2005, 02:47 AM

My apologies, I skimmed over that big block of text at the top. I look for reads right above the actual hand history. No matter.

Seriously though, don't beat yourself up over this. These things happen.

mason55 · #7 10-29-2005, 06:24 AM

#8 10-29-2005, 08:58 AM

Third hand is bad. If you have no reads, than you have to be conservative and assume he has AA. Other hands seem fine. Use the cardplayer.com odds calculator to give yourself a better feeling about when the money goes in.

Don't the pokerroom bonusses suck?

Komodo · #9 10-29-2005, 09:25 AM

I dont see how you can possibly fold KK in a 4-handed game. you migth take a flop, so as not to lose any AK, JJ or QQ hand, but all the same, I dont see how you can fold the kings on that flop.

#10 10-29-2005, 09:43 AM

It's 5 handed, and didn't you see this: Button raises to $1, 1 fold, HERO raises to $5.25, UTG folds, Button raises to $16.

With no reads, that's either KK or AA, and only a slight possibility of QQ. He could be BSing around, but don't risk your stack on that with no reads.

I play 6-handed and KK vs AA comes up more than you think.