How much do you value bet this river?

brassnuts · #1 07-08-2005, 12:39 AM

Haven't seen much from this villain so far. I'm fairly new to the table, also.

Party Poker $100 max

Hero dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in CO.

MP limps, Hero raises to $4, eveyrone folds, MP calls.

Flop A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot $8.50)

MP checks, Hero bets $6, MP raises $6, Hero calls $6.

Turn K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot $33)

MP checks, Hero bets $20, MP calls.

River: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

MP checks... how much should I bet?

AllIn3High · #2 07-08-2005, 12:42 AM

I'd check behind. I think you're splitting most of the time here. I have a hard time seeing him calling you down with a hand you beat.

fimbulwinter · #3 07-08-2005, 01:04 AM

30 looks good, though you re splitting most often.

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FWIW your avatar is the best evar.

Student Caine · #4 07-08-2005, 01:12 AM

I check behind, but I exemplify weak-tight.

Try to get The Worst Player here, he's aggressive as all giddy-up and will give you the line that you are looking for.

Spladle Master · #5 07-08-2005, 01:16 AM

To be honest, I don't think you should. Bet, I mean. Unless this guy has made fishy calls in the past. Also, I'd have re-raised the flop.

RiverFenix · #6 07-08-2005, 01:45 AM

Reraise flop, push non spade turn.

poboy · #7 07-08-2005, 01:47 AM

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I'd check behind. I think you're splitting most of the time here.

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Which is the very reason he must bet. Getting villian to fold is the only way Hero wins this pot.

AllIn3High · #8 07-08-2005, 01:50 AM

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I'd check behind. I think you're splitting most of the time here.

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Which is the very reason he must bet. Getting villian to fold is the only way Hero wins this pot.

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You really think Villian is folding an ace here? I doubt it. Betting here is just burning money especially when he's behind IMHO.

poboy · #9 07-08-2005, 01:57 AM

Hero is very rarely behind here. This is most likely a split pot or a missed flush draw. If there is any chance at all(even if it is minute) villian might fold an A, then betting is clearly best. JMO

nietzreznor · #10 07-08-2005, 03:20 AM

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This is most likely a split pot or a missed flush draw.

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If this is true, then wouldn't a check behind be in order?

I guess a lot of the merit of a value bet here hinges on how often we think villain will fold when we would split were he to call. At these levels, I doubt that is very often...

...however, I also feel like there are enough people out there who will call with some bizarre holdings. This is probably a split most often (which makes betting bad), but you may get called with something random often enough to make betting +EV.