I'm bad at river play

GrunchCan · #1 03-15-2005, 08:42 PM

Both my opponents here are loose and passive. They will call down with all kinds of 3-out draws to 1 pair.

I've probably answered my own question.

But I'm pretty bad at knowing when to put in a value bet on the river.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

River: (7.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero...?

Thoughts?

What sorts of things should I be thinking about here?

Jeffage · #2 03-15-2005, 08:58 PM

I would seriously consider checkraising the flop rather than leading into 5 people here. On the end, it may be a good spot to check and hope to induce a bluff from a busted draw.

Jeff

Shillx · #3 03-15-2005, 09:01 PM

Bet the river. If you check, they will surely bet a king or something like 2-pair and will check through all other hands you beat (you know the drill). The 2nd best play is probably to check/fold with check/calling being the worst unless they will just take randoom stabs at the river (doesn't sounds like they will though).

Brad

GrunchCan · #4 03-15-2005, 09:16 PM

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I would seriously consider checkraising the flop rather than leading into 5 people here.

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I figured my opponents were too passive to bet if they missed, and I wanted to get bets in while I had the equity to do so.

Jeffage · #5 03-15-2005, 09:19 PM

It would be rare to see that flop checked through with that many opponents. People will bet flopped draws, lower pockets, and maybe overs.

Jeff

Roy6 · #6 03-15-2005, 09:30 PM

if it's checked through what's your play if the turn is a Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or a 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]?

Jeffage · #7 03-15-2005, 09:37 PM

Bet and fold to a raise. I don't think a flop bet is terrible here, just not optimal.

Jeff

LoaferGee12 · #8 03-15-2005, 09:53 PM

I really don't see a reason to check/raise this flop. This flop is pretty ragged and could easily get checked through. What does a check-raise really get accomplished here anyways? I agree on bet/folding the river though.

bakku · #9 03-15-2005, 09:58 PM

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Bet the river.

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PokerBob · #10 03-15-2005, 10:32 PM

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Both my opponents here are loose and passive. They will call down with all kinds of 3-out draws to 1 pair.

I've probably answered my own question.

But I'm pretty bad at knowing when to put in a value bet on the river.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

River: (7.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero...?

Thoughts?

What sorts of things should I be thinking about here?

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bet, but you know that