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Old 10-06-2005, 08:34 PM
JKratzer JKratzer is offline
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Default 2/4 NL big overbet

No reads on villian, he sat down less than a minute ago.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($456.40)
UTG+1 ($261.01)
UTG+2 ($925.02)
MP1 ($400)
MP2 ($400)
MP3 ($458.30)
CO ($567.40)
Button ($403.70)
Hero ($654.50)
BB ($200)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $4, UTG+1 calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $4, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($20) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $15.

Turn: ($80) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $45</font>, MP1 calls $366 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $491
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Old 10-06-2005, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL big overbet

Reads? I make a crying call.
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Old 10-06-2005, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL big overbet

Call

Villains most likely hands are kt, qt, jt, t9. If he held a set of 22 or 33 then he just got extremely lucky that you have such a fine second best hand. His bet looks like a weak T trying to stack an over/under pair. Thing is most players don't flop a huge hand and try to shut everyone out, especially at 2/4.
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Old 10-06-2005, 08:46 PM
JKratzer JKratzer is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 NL big overbet

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Reads?

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edited.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:20 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 NL big overbet

Min c/r = suck.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL big overbet

Fold, but I just want to add that you really messed this hand up. After the flop he easily puts you on a T and you don't know [censored] about what he has.
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:19 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL big overbet

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Fold, but I just want to add that you really messed this hand up. After the flop he easily puts you on a T and you don't know [censored] about what he has.

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I don't normally minraise, but in this situation, I figured any action I would get would be from a weaker ten. I wanted to keep him in the hand assuming he only had 2 outs to beat me. After his turn all-in I put him on 22 and folded.

You don't like how I played it, ok - how should I have played it?

JKratzer
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL big overbet

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Min c/r = suck.

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Does it always suck or just in this spot?

I normally don't min c/r but I figured to be WAWB in this situation (WA is kinda what I assumed) and thought I would outkick him. I wanted to keep him in the hand with a K,Q,J,etc. kicker and didn't want to scare him off. I asked xorbie the same question, and I'm being sincere, how would you have played it?
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:31 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL big overbet

You didnt play it horrible. I guess you invited A 10 to steal it from you, but it really looks like 22.

You could c/r bigger on flop, or bet/call raise on flop and lead turn, etc.

I know everyone jumps on miniraise here, but i dont hate it.
Gotta fold on end.
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Old 10-07-2005, 04:06 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL big overbet

I would lead the flop here. You have a good hand and want to play a big pot. Medium pairs will still give you some action.

400NL players love to overplay trips. 22 is the only reasonable hand you are behind to. I call
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