More outs than Spicymoose has excuses? Help me count!

[oreogod]

looks like 4-4.5 outs.

J = 2outs (split. If u dont belive it will split then 4)
T = 1 out (possibly 2)
A=1-1.5 outs (maybe less)

==4.5 outs.

Id say u have enough to take off. But wtf do I know late at night and no sleep in ages.

Also Im not so worried about drawing dead here...unless UTG has AJ or J8, I see no worries. SB maybe, but once he calls, looks like u are still drawing live. If thats the case then your T outs are tainted if UTG has a set or something, in which case u lose the T outs but possibly gain more J outs. Anyway, my 2 cents.

[TomBrooks]

I'm going to count only your Jack outs to the nut straight as good here. That's four outs and you can call getting 9:1 due to implied odds.

If a T falls on the river, you can probably fold. If an Ace comes, I would check and maybe call one bet, but certainly not two.

Queery for you: Why do you characterize 27/11/1.8 as Weak-Tight? Not enough preflop raising? 1.8 post flop seems pretty aggro to me.

As far as public bathrooms in New York City go, I don't think there are any except at the beaches and some parks. The ones at Coney Island last year weren't so bad. Probably because most people have been in the water and their stinky butts have gotten washed.