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Re: $22: push any two from SB here?
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[ QUOTE ] Um. Am I reading this right? You want to push 12BB into an 11BB stack with T5? At a $22. And there are people here agreeing with you? Wow. [/ QUOTE ] You really think that's crazy? If I have a tight image and think villain is fairly tight I do this every time. This being a $22 and the BB having a similar size stack is more of an argument to push rather than fold. At a higher buy-in I would lean towards folding. If the big blind had a much smaller or much larger stack I would lean towards folding. Am I way off base here? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. The fact you think pushing at the $22s is better than pushing at the $55s is worrisome. |
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Re: $22: push any two from SB here?
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Yes. The fact you think pushing at the $22s is better than pushing at the $55s is worrisome. [/ QUOTE ] One of the reasons the $22's are so easy to beat is the sub-optimal bubble play. This typically means getting too tight, not too loose at the bubble. (Bad players are loose early and tight late, the opposite of proper strategy.) When I play higher levels, I loosen up my calling standards around the bubble because I know more players understand bubble play and will be loosening up their pushing range. For the same reason, I tighten up on my bubble pushes at higher levels because I'm more likely to get called. |
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Re: $22: push any two from SB here?
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[ QUOTE ] Yes. The fact you think pushing at the $22s is better than pushing at the $55s is worrisome. [/ QUOTE ] One of the reasons the $22's are so easy to beat is the sub-optimal bubble play. This typically means getting too tight, not too loose at the bubble. (Bad players are loose early and tight late, the opposite of proper strategy.) When I play higher levels, I loosen up my calling standards around the bubble because I know more players understand bubble play and will be loosening up their pushing range. For the same reason, I tighten up on my bubble pushes at higher levels because I'm more likely to get called. [/ QUOTE ] IT'S SIX HANDED!!! |
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Re: $22: push any two from SB here?
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IT'S SIX HANDED!!! [/ QUOTE ] LOL, good point... For some reason I was looking at this with my mind attuned to the bubble. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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Re: $22: push any two from SB here?
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[ QUOTE ] Yes. The fact you think pushing at the $22s is better than pushing at the $55s is worrisome. [/ QUOTE ] One of the reasons the $22's are so easy to beat is the sub-optimal bubble play. This typically means getting too tight, not too loose at the bubble. (Bad players are loose early and tight late, the opposite of proper strategy.) [/ QUOTE ] You're missing a crucial point here, which is that the bad players' ranges don't change very much as we approach the bubble. That's why we say they're "too loose early and too tight late." A good player will look at the situation and try to determine how loose or tight he needs to be. A bad player just has his preset call ranges, not taking into account the situation. When kyro says that pushing is bad at the 22s, it applies mostly to when blinds are worth picking up, but you still have a relatively nice stack >8BB, and certainly when you're sitting rather pretty at 12BB as in this case. When your opponent will call you with [censored] like QJ, he's being too loose, and that ends up hurting you because your hand has little intrinsic value. When blinds are bigger, like 100/200, his unmodified call range is too tight and now a push is enormously +EV for you. |
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Re: $22: push any two from SB here?
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When kyro says that pushing is bad at the 22s, it applies mostly to when blinds are worth picking up, but you still have a relatively nice stack >8BB, and certainly when you're sitting rather pretty at 12BB as in this case. When your opponent will call you with [censored] like QJ, he's being too loose, and that ends up hurting you because your hand has little intrinsic value. When blinds are bigger, like 100/200, his unmodified call range is too tight and now a push is enormously +EV for you. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with you. I was evaluating this as a bubble play, not six-handed. Pin the tail on the donkey... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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