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Old 11-16-2005, 05:12 PM
silkyslim silkyslim is offline
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for 3 outs you need 1to 14.5, The pot was a little bigger than that

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id give you a little less than 3 outs here since the board is paired and you have some significant reverse implied odds.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: slim or bad?

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Did you win?

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hahahahaha... no, really

i actually did lol
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:19 PM
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I fold on every street.

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Old 11-16-2005, 05:20 PM
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fwiw the flop call is thin but fine. he's getting a billion to one with two fine draws.

the turn is an easy fold.

EDITED to add: oops. there's that flushy draw thingy on the turn...
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:26 PM
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Pre-flop isn't terrible. The flop is.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: slim or bad?

pretty bad. I would fold preflop and then I would fold the flop, wishing I had folded preflop.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:36 PM
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getting 16.5:1?
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: slim or bad?

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getting 16.5:1?

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Getting 16.5:1 on what? It just seems like your reverse implied odds are terrible, since you are quite likely to make a second-best hand, particularly against so many players.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:42 PM
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All opponents were really bad lags like 60/10

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (13.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

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The river is the only debatable street. On the flop I give you 4 outs easily (discounted pair outs, 1 out for BDSD, 1 out for BDFD. That is enough for a call.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:43 PM
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3 outs is enough. i'm not certain how you think he's "quite likely" to have a second best hand with a flush or straight.

and he quite likely is getting 17.5:1

and i'm weighing the times he improves to a second best hand and loses by not giving him any pair outs, which, despite the field, he may have.

this is NOT a terrible spot for a peel.

i'm certainly open to hearing why it's incorrect, but if it's incorrect it's very, very close. there's not much that isn't with those odds.
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