Coordinated boards. What Im I doing wrong?

[Peter-23]

Im getting completely crushed by these coordinated boards

Please help me.

What am I doing wrong?

Party Poker (9 max, 8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, SB folds.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP1 folds.

Final Pot:

[Eeegah]

You went wrong when you posted this hand without looking at the preview to see if it was actually right. Take "Texas " out of your hand history. Also post reads.

[Peter-23]

Ops, thanks.

Both BB and MP1 were loose. especially BB who played almost everything til the river and was also aggressive betting and raising often.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

River: (8 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 10 BB

[SlantNGo]

What was the question again? This hand is fine. Consider raising preflop if SB will fold.

[Peter-23]

Well, obviously Im not satisfied with the outcome of hands like this.

Im getting completely crushed when the boards are coordinated like this.

Acctually I believe this is the leak in my game. When I hit two pair, top pair or overpair on boards that look like this (or similar), then I just cant get them profitable.

This is a typical hand. I hit something, take the lead, get called down and lose. And when I win I win early in the hand winning a tiny pot. The tiny pots I win do not add up to cover the loses.


So I'm thinking there must be something I am doing wrong or don't realize.

[Sykes]

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Well, obviously Im not satisfied with the outcome of hands like this.

Im getting completely crushed by these coordinated boards.

Acctually I believe this is the leak in my game. When I hit two pair, top pair or overpair on boards that look like this (or similar), then I just cant get them profitable.

This is a typical hand. I hit something, take the lead, get called down and lose. And when I win I win early in the hand winning a tiny pot. The tiny pots I win do not add up to cover the loses.


So I'm thinking there must be something I am doing wrong or don't realize.

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Small sample size. Did BB have Q9?

[Peter-23]

50k hands.

He had T9o

[grjr]

Looks fine to me. You're lucky that BB was afraid of the flush and didn't raise you on the river with his straight.

I've learned to hate catching 2 pair when I have connectors. 2 pair with J2 is much better. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Saint_D]

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I've learned to hate catching 2 pair when I have connectors. 2 pair with J2 is much better. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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You said it! I have learned to hate 2 pair. I have always overplayed them. They are best when you fill them up on the turn. 72o in the bb with 72A on the board can be nice too.



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On to the hand in question.

PF: This is a borderline call IMHO. I would be inclined to toss this hand to a limper. You want to tighten up a lot when you are facing one limper. If you think the limper is weak, raise to isolate. Otherwise fold. Had this been folded to you a limp or a raise are both fine.

Other than a slightly loose PF call, I think you played well. The raise on the flop to protect your hand is nice.

Lets think about the hand from the BB's persective.

Flop: If BB had Q9 then his play is poor. Calling the raise on the flop is OK if he is trying for an overcall from the player behind him. With X[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] X[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] no part of the board, this is an easy fold. (If someone beat you with the flush and was drawing to the runner-runner just smile and hope they play this bad all the time.)

Turn: Every Q9 combination should raise you. The non [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] combinations for protection from the flush and Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] purely for value.

River: Q9o should bet out. If the players are calling stations, call a raise. If they are weak tight, re-raise to get low flushes to drop in fear of the overflush. At .5/1 they are probably calling stations.

If you lost to the strait, just be glad he didn't pop you for another bet on the river. If you lost to the flush, put the villain on your buddy list. He made a ton of mistakes.

-D

Your next assignment.

Raise PF, otherwise you're golden. Pretty straight-forward stuff--this hand will make you money more often than not.