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Old 09-15-2004, 10:21 PM
stanky stanky is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

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He has AK or AQ clubs.

Fold.

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Agreed. He might also have AJ of clubs. But anyway these seem to be the only reasonable hands a winning TAG would call you with pre-flop assuming he knows your line of play, and then play the flop and turn the way he did.

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Old 09-15-2004, 11:09 PM
Senor Choppy Senor Choppy is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

AJ or AQ of clubs are good possibilities. 44 or 55 are also fairly likely. And if he's smart he might be making a move with 66-99 or JJ on the turn knowing you probably wouldn't cap with any hand that includes an ace and knows the turn card is definitely a scare card for you (unless you have AA).

I'd fold against most TAG players.
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

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AJ or AQ of clubs are good possibilities. 44 or 55 are also fairly likely

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well put choppy.

I think AJ and KQ clubs is certainly possible, but I think 44, 55, 33, and 22 are also very valid holdings. I would overcall a raise even with 22 in his spot I think pre-flop. poor play?
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Old 09-16-2004, 10:20 AM
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Forget the TAG description if he's calling 2 cold with small pairs.
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Old 09-16-2004, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

why?

I consider myself TAG and i think calling 2 hear with 22 isnt a terrible play, but wnat to know if it is so I can stop doing it.
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Old 09-16-2004, 12:38 PM
ResidentParanoid ResidentParanoid is offline
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With one limper and 1 raiser, I think calling 2 cold with small pairs is a mistake. Too expensive, no guarantee that you will get multiway. On the button with 3 or 4 already in and I'm willing to discuss it.
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Old 09-16-2004, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

If you label players based on one hand then you are mislabeling alot of players. Ever hear of mixing it up?

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Old 09-16-2004, 12:39 PM
ResidentParanoid ResidentParanoid is offline
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Mix it up by limping hand that you usually raise with. Or raising a hand you normally limp with. But cold calling with a hand that should be folded is not mixing it up, it's -EV.
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Old 09-16-2004, 12:03 PM
Senor Choppy Senor Choppy is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

My VP$IP is around 17-18% and I regularly cold call 2 in multiway pots with small pairs.
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Old 09-16-2004, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

You're probably up against A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], but you could be facing, say K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or 66, 77, 88, 99. There's enough doubt about your opponent's holding and you have enough outs to improve to a win / chop that you should simply call it down.

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