Big Draw vs. LAG 50 NL

lmw · #1 11-05-2005, 04:41 PM

Villian is LAG. Reraise the flop and check a blank turn?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 ($22.25)
MP3 ($51.80)
CO ($100.45)
Hero ($81.95)
SB ($53.60)
BB ($18.05)
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($12.50)
MP1 ($52.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP3 bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($6.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 bets $6.75, Hero calls $6.75.

River: ($20.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 bets $20.25 Hero?

lmw · #2 11-05-2005, 07:11 PM

Anyone?

Morrek · #3 11-05-2005, 07:15 PM

Raise the flop to 6-7. As played I would call river but expect to lose some of the time.
I play 6max only but I would definetly raise this preflop too

gol4pro · #4 11-05-2005, 07:16 PM

Raise either flop or turn. I like doing it on the turn because it is more representative of a slowplayed set/2 pair, and he becomes very easy to stack just in case you hit because of the size of the pot.

As played, call river.

benwood · #5 11-05-2005, 07:56 PM

As played, I would raise him all in on the river. He has about 20 bucks left, & the pot is about $60. With him being a lag, there is no reason to assume that he has the nuts & just call. But, it can't be right to just call the flop & turn. If he has a K, you have 15 outs. If he has a 10, you have 21 outs. I prefer to raise the flop about $10, & then make a decision on the turn. But going back to the beginning, I believe it is right to raise it about $2 pre-flop, bet about $10 on the flop, then go all in on the turn. Maybe this is too laggish, but I don't think so.

nietzreznor · #6 11-05-2005, 08:25 PM

Is this LAG any good? Maybe more importantly, how often will he come over the top if you raise the flop? If him 3-betting the flop is a good possibility, I think I like flatcalling better. I think you would do better to get it in with made hands against LAGs than coinflip situations where you may not have much folding equity.

As played, I probably put him in on the river, assuming he's the type of LAG who will call here with trips, TP, etc. If he's pretty aggressive, you will have the best hand more often than not here.

lmw · #7 11-06-2005, 05:55 AM

This is precisely why i called the flop and turn. I felt like a reraise on the flop had no fold equity. I'm thinking a reraise on the flop, even if I know it will be called, might give me the oppourtunity to give myself a free card on the turn and induce a river bluff, but if villian comes over the top I'm stuck flipping a coin for a huge pot against a player i can get much bigger edges against.

boose_bagina · #8 11-06-2005, 06:07 AM

Push All-in, he calls and turns over any K. set unlikely.

calling flop seems ok against LAG.

Lucky · #9 11-06-2005, 06:12 AM

I like the raise flop, check blank turn line.

the river is read dependent between call/raise. Does he call you with worse hands? How often is he on boat, etc?

I prob call without big donk read.

lmw · #10 11-06-2005, 02:31 PM

So i reraise him all in on the river and....

River: ($20.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 bets $20.25, Hero bets $20.25, MP3 bets $40.5.

Final Pot: $81

Results in white below: 
MP3 has Kd 4h (full house, fours full of kings).
Hero has Qs Js (flush, king high).
Outcome: MP3 wins $81. 

.... stuff around my house gets broken