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Old 08-26-2005, 08:59 AM
Me and You Me and You is offline
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Default I think I\'m ready to move up

Hey all been playing .25-.50 and I believe I have conquered it however my sample size isn't great.

Here are my stats:
Hands: 6079
VP$IP: 22.45
VP$IP SB: 43.32
Fold SB to Steal: 83.33
Fold BB to Steal: 45.45
Att to steal Blinds: 23.74
Won$WSF: 29.25
BB/100: 3.52
Went to SD: 40.54
Won$at SD: 49.72
Preflop Raise: 8.44

I've read that $.5-$1 isn't that much different and I have the br for it. So should I move up or stick it our a few 1000 more hands at this limit?

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Old 08-26-2005, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: I think I\'m ready to move up

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Hey all been playing .25-.50 and I believe I have conquered it however my sample size isn't great.

Here are my stats:
Hands: 6079
VP$IP: 22.45
VP$IP SB: 43.32
Fold SB to Steal: 83.33
Fold BB to Steal: 45.45
Att to steal Blinds: 23.74
Won$WSF: 29.25
BB/100: 3.52
Went to SD: 40.54
Won$at SD: 49.72
Preflop Raise: 8.44

I've read that $.5-$1 isn't that much different and I have the br for it. So should I move up or stick it our a few 1000 more hands at this limit?

Cheers

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That's a HUGE WTSD number, in my experience. Have a hard time getting away from hands, even when you think you're beat?

I don't really remember any big adjustments I made to my play between .25/.50 and .50/1.00. Maybe you'll notice the tables tighten up a bit more, and the loose limp-fests are a bit harder to find.

If you're confident in your play, by all means try it out.

I like what was suggested (probably by Grunch, he suggests so many cool things we are all in danger of becoming Grunch-bots) that when you think you're ready to move up take 50BB of the new level up, and play. If you lose those, go back down and keep playing the lower level for a while more. If not, well, then you've moved up.

KO
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:13 AM
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WTSD is pretty big. Try not to call the river when you have TPTK so much. That was a huge hole in my game. Anyway, i think that if your thinking about moving up, just get into it slowly. Play 1 table at a time. Good luck.
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:16 AM
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Default Re: I think I\'m ready to move up

THankyou I do believe that I tend to hold onto tptk to much but most of the times the pots are huge so I tend not to fold as I'm not 100% sure I'm beaten.Usually happens when I'm heads up but still abit in multiway pot. Does this mean I should tend to fold more in these situations?
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: I think I\'m ready to move up

You don't have anywhere near enough hands to conclude anything about your stats, especially your winrate.

That said, if you feel like you're beating .25/.50 and you have the roll for .5/1, by all means move up. I've never played .25/.50, but it's hard to imagine that it's that much softer than .5/1. You can always move back down if you need to.
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:22 AM
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THankyou I do believe that I tend to hold onto tptk to much but most of the times the pots are huge so I tend not to fold as I'm not 100% sure I'm beaten.Usually happens when I'm heads up but still abit in multiway pot. Does this mean I should tend to fold more in these situations?

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Folding TPTK for one bet on the river in a huge pot is generally somewhere between terrible and abysmal. There are times when you can do this, but a good general rule is just to go ahead and show your hand down in these situations even if you're almost sure you're beaten.

I will go out on a limb and offer a 100% guarantee that showing down TPTK is NOT the reason why your WSD is unusually high.
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:25 AM
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What would be a more suitable number?
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:26 AM
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What i mean was something like, say you got AK(no club) on the button, everyone folds to you, you raise, called by blinds.

Flop K87 with 2 clubs
blind checks, you bet BB calls
Turn, a club
you bet, BB raises

Stuff like that where the pot is like 4 BB and theres a fairly good chance your hand is no good against your average .5/1 player.
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:27 AM
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What would be a more suitable number?

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Somewhere from the high 20's to the mid 30's is typical.
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: I think I\'m ready to move up

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What i mean was something like, say you got AK(no club) on the button, everyone folds to you, you raise, called by blinds.

Flop K87 with 2 clubs
blind checks, you bet BB calls
Turn, a club
you bet, BB raises

Stuff like that where the pot is like 4 BB and theres a fairly good chance your hand is no good against your average .5/1 player.

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This isn't a "huge pot" and you're not talking about folding for one bet on the river.
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