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Old 11-07-2005, 09:09 PM
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Default KS hand rankings

I have been looking for a list of the karlson-sklansky hand rankings and have seen different list with some hands in different order. Is the following an accurate list of the hand rankings that you use for pushing on the bubble

Hand
AA
KK
AKs
QQ
AKo
JJ
AQs
TT
AQo
99
AJs
88
ATs
AJo
77
66
ATo Top 10%
A9s
55
A8s
KQs
44
A9o
A7s
KJs
A5s
A8o
A6s
A4s
33
KTs
A7o
A3s
KQo TOP 20%
A2s
A5o
A6o
A4o
KJo
QJs
A3o
22
K9s
A2o
KTo
QTs
K8s
K7s
JTs
K9o
K6s TOP 30%
QJo
Q9s
K5s
K8o
K4s
QTo
K7o
K3s
K2s
Q8s
K6o
J9s
K5o
Q9o
JTo
K4o
Q7s TOP 40%
T9s
Q6s
K3o
J8s
Q5s
K2o
Q8o
Q4s
J9o
Q3s
T8s
J7s
Q7o
Q2s
Q6o
98s
Q5o TOP 50%
J8o
T9o
J6s
T7s
J5s
Q4o
J4s
J7o
Q3o
97s
T8o
J3s
T6s
Q2o
J2s
87s
J6o TOP 60%
98o
T7o
96s
J5o
T5s
T4s
86s
J4o
T6o
97o
T3s
76s
95s
J3o
T2s
87o
85s TOP 70%
96o
T5o
J2o
75s
94s
T4o
65s
86o
93s
84s
95o
T3o
76o
92s
74s
54s
T2o TOP 80%
85o
64s
83s
94o
75o
82s
73s
93o
65o
53s
63s
84o
92o
43s
74o
72s
54o TOP 90%
64o
52s
62s
83o
42s
82o
73o
53o
63o
32s
43o
72o
52o
62o
42o
32o
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: KS hand rankings

in the SNGPT forum eastbay said

There are 169 preflop hand types. Each of those types can be made multiple ways. A pair can be made 6 ways, a suited hand 4 ways, and unsuited split hand 12 ways.

The percentage refers to the total number of hands, not the % of the rank groups. So 30% does not mean .3*169 = the top ~51 types, it means the top 30% of the total hands, considering the number of hands of each type.

This means my % are wrong. does anyone have a link for a list that denotes the % based on the total number of ways to make a hand?
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Old 11-07-2005, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: KS hand rankings

anyone?
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Old 11-07-2005, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: KS hand rankings

I cant tell if you're asking for the KS rankings. If so, here.

If not, sorry.
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: KS hand rankings

You could have figured it out yourself with a spreadsheet in the time you've been waiting for a response.
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: KS hand rankings

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You could have figured it out yourself with a spreadsheet in the time you've been waiting for a response.

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I don't mind doing the work if someone would be kind enough to get me started. I'm not experienced with excel, but I do have it on my computer. I just thought for sure someone would have this kind of information already, but if not, just tell me what to do and i get the percentages and post them.
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:05 AM
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Well, for pairs, there are 6 ways to be dealt them: 4 choices for the first card times 3 choices for the second card divided by 2 (so you don't count AsAd and AdAs as different hands).

For suited hands there are four ways they can be dealt (one for each suit).

For off-suited hands there are 12 ways they can be dealt (four choices for the first card times 3 offsuited matches for each).

So, put the KS list in your spreadsheet and for each pair use a factor of 6, for each suited hand use a factor of 4 and for each unsuited (non-pair) hand use a factor of 12.
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: KS hand rankings

so if in one column i put the hand and in the next column i put the number of ways to deal that hand 6-4-12, and then i add up the total of the second column and multiply it by the percentage i'm want to get, will that give me the actual top 20% etc.
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: KS hand rankings

Yes, remembering there are 1326 unique hands.
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:37 PM
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The sheet might look like:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
ways cumulative Cum%
AA 6 6 0.45%
KK 6 12 0.90%
AKs 4 16 1.21%
QQ 6 22 1.66%
AKo 12 34 2.56%
JJ 6 40 3.02%
Aqs 4 44 3.32%
TT 6 50 3.77%
AQo 12 62 4.68%
99 6 68 5.13%
… … …
62o 12 1302 98.19%
42o 12 1314 99.10%
32o 12 1326 100.00% </pre><hr />
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