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Old 10-21-2005, 12:13 PM
poboys poboys is offline
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Default 32s on the button w/ strange post-flop action

The table has a nice mix of 15/5's (none in this hand) and LPs . I realize the limp on the button is pretty loose, but these guys were so LP I thought it was worth it. Here's the stats on the players that matter for this hand:

BB is 10/7/1 after 100 hands,
UTG is 90/0/0.75 after 100 hands,
UTG+1 is 26/10/3 after 50 hands,
UTG+2 is 70/22/0.9 after 80 hands,

UTG and UTG+2 rarely showed aggression past the flop but would check-call all day.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

<font color="green">UTG+2's call/3-bet really confused me here. Made me think he either had a set or a draw.</font>

Turn: (9 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero ...

<font color="green"> BBs lead (given the aggression post-flop) confused me. Plan for turn and river? </font>
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:19 PM
krimson krimson is offline
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Default Re: 32s on the button w/ strange post-flop action

What about JT?

I put in another raise on the turn. Consider folding later on if things get out of hand.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: 32s on the button w/ strange post-flop action

I would not raise this flop closing the action. That is all.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: 32s on the button w/ strange post-flop action

I assume your talking about UTG+2 -- JT makes sense for him. But what about BB? Or am I overthinking this one?
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: 32s on the button w/ strange post-flop action

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I would not raise this flop closing the action. That is all.

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Assuming you don't raise post-flop, how do you handle the turn given the 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: 32s on the button w/ strange post-flop action

Oh, I'd raise that.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: 32s on the button w/ strange post-flop action

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I assume your talking about UTG+2 -- JT makes sense for him. But what about BB? Or am I overthinking this one?

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It's definitely a dangerous board for us, so your not overthinking it. But, we hit the hand we are drawing to and we have 3 opponents stuck, probably to showdown. I think we need to make one last raise here and then slowdown (consider folding?) to any further aggression.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: 32s on the button w/ strange post-flop action

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I would not raise this flop closing the action. That is all.

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why?

before the action after you raise i wouldnt be too worried about bigger clubs, you most likely have an equity edge and you might buy a free card, are you that worried about your clubs being no good?
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: 32s on the button w/ strange post-flop action

No, I'm worried about being 3-bet, losing customers, and not being able to trap as many players on the turn if I hit.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: 32s on the button w/ strange post-flop action

I was wondering the same thing.. seems like I most likely have an equity edge (b/f things got nutty on the flop) and position. Villians were passive. Thought I'd get a pretty decent chance at a free card on the turn (if no club fell).
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