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Old 12-13-2005, 04:02 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Just wtf am I doing?

Don't I want to bet the flop and have CO raise SB out of the pot with his overcards?

CR doesn't seem to accomplish much.

Or should I just 3bet preflop and take control?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>...
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:11 PM
SnglMaltScotch SnglMaltScotch is offline
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Default Re: Just wtf am I doing?

I would have 3 bet preflop.

The way you played it I like the donk but do you have any reason to believe the CO is going to raise just overcards. Him just calling would be bad since it gives SB more incentative to stay in.

Bet, call the raise, re-evaluate on the turn.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:12 PM
jba jba is offline
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Default Re: Just wtf am I doing?

I think it's fine

what's with the lack of any reads in these posts?
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:24 PM
RunDownHouse RunDownHouse is offline
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Default Re: Just wtf am I doing?

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Don't I want to bet the flop and have CO raise SB out of the pot with his overcards?

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That sounds like a good plan to me. Like jba said though, did you have any idea on earth if he would, or what?
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:29 PM
spydog spydog is offline
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Default Re: Just wtf am I doing?

Bad flop lead. You need to checkraise this.

If CO raises you on the flop it is because he has a better hand or overcards. If he has overcards then you actually want the SB to call his raise with overcards because they likely share outs, so the SB will normally only have 3 additional outs versus you.

So, checkraise this flop. You will often get 2 bets out of 2 players and your checkraise will look pretty strong. They will often fold incorrectly to your turn bet when they do have overcards.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:46 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Re: Just wtf am I doing?

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I think it's fine

what's with the lack of any reads in these posts?

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I play fairly short sessions out of necessity. It takes a while to establish a read. Therefore, I often don't have any that are meaningful beyond the typical 35/8/1.2 type.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:47 PM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Default Re: Just wtf am I doing?

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I think it's fine

what's with the lack of any reads in these posts?

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I play fairly short sessions out of necessity. It takes a while to establish a read. Therefore, I often don't have any that are meaningful beyond the typical 35/8/1.2 type.

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Why not give us that then?
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:52 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Why not give us that then?

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I don't think I even had that on this hand. Not enough hands for PAHUD yet.
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:00 PM
Reqtech Reqtech is offline
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Default Re: Just wtf am I doing?

3 bet pf and lead the flop is standard for me.
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:04 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Re: Just wtf am I doing?

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3 bet pf and lead the flop is standard for me.

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FWIW, I 3bet every time when the SB folds.
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