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Old 10-25-2005, 08:12 PM
Maurader1 Maurader1 is offline
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Default Beating pf to death

This one came up today...

3 limpers (marginally loose, passive pf, post flop not very tricky) to me in either CO or Button with AQo

raise or call?

I'm thinking if I can get both blinds to fold, I should raise, but if I can't, I should just call.

Also, if I were in BB's shoes, with 3 limpers and a raiser, would I be inclined to call with any two connected or suited?

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Old 10-25-2005, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: Beating pf to death

this is so far on the raise side of the equation that whether the blinds would call 100% of the time or fold 100% of the time does not sway the decision. raiseraiseraiseraiseraiseraiseraiseraiseraise
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Beating pf to death

Make it like 5 or 6 and I'd probably call, and I'd call AJo here, but this is a raise.
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: Beating pf to death

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This one came up today...

3 limpers (marginally loose, passive pf, post flop not very tricky) to me in either CO or Button with AQo

raise or call?

I'm thinking if I can get both blinds to fold, I should raise, but if I can't, I should just call.

Also, if I were in BB's shoes, with 3 limpers and a raiser, would I be inclined to call with any two connected or suited?

Thx!

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What's your rationale for only calling if they won't fold? (I remember something about not giving others odds to call the turn if you hit TP, but if someone could explain this to me it'd be great)
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Beating pf to death

What makes AJ so much better than AQ?
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:25 PM
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If I can fold the blinds, then I would be up against 3 opponents in stead of 5. I think this significant reduction warrants a raise, but if they won't fold, then there's not much equity in bloating the pot...I'm probably wrong...
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:26 PM
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I don't know what I was thinking at the time. I mean, it's been ingrained that if I had AKo, I would definitely raise, I don't know what made me think AQ is so different...but apparently as Shant posted, AJ is different enough from AQ that I'd be calling with AJ...so I guess it means that if I flop a J, 6 cards can come to beat me, but if i flop a Q, only 3 can beat me?
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:29 PM
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I'm trying to understand why we don't want crappy hands calling us here, I would think that we have equity edge here if AQ.
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:29 PM
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i believe this all comes from a HPFAP section that discusses limping this hand - after good players.

the guys you describe are not good, and you should take advantage of this with a great hand. i would still raise AJo behind these guys. i'd limp ATo.

i would raise T9s.
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:31 PM
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i believe this all comes from a HPFAP section that discusses limping this hand - after good players.

the guys you describe are not good, and you should take advantage of this with a great hand. i would still raise AJo behind these guys. i'd limp ATo.

i would raise T9s.

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