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Old 07-08-2005, 01:58 PM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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Default Rules to stay out of trouble

Hi,

My friend gave me three rules for post flop play.

1. Do not draw to low, unless it is the nuts.
2. Do not play any set, unless it is top or middle
with staight or flush possibilities.
3. Never draw to a flush unless it is the nut flush,
except if you have straight or boat possibilities to
go with it.

What do you think of these rules, as guidance for a
beginner? I play starting hands suggested by Greg on
his o8poker.com website. Should the combination of his
starting hands and these rules be sufficient to win at
low stakes limit games?

Suerte,
Jonathan
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:14 PM
gergery gergery is offline
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Default Re: Rules to stay out of trouble

Those rules are like Hutchinson’s point system – good general guidelines and helpful to keep beginners out of trouble. You can be a winner playing like that up thru $3-6 or so on line.

But as you get better you’ll find you leave money on the table as there are some small to moderate EV+ situations where you can/should play 2nd nut flushes, middle sets, bare top sets, etc.

--Greg
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:17 PM
Jorge10 Jorge10 is offline
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Default Re: Rules to stay out of trouble

Ok I like the first rule, and the third one I could live with, but the second one is not quite right. Heres the problems with that rule, most of the time you will have top set and no flush draw, but its actually good to push. If you got K/K in the hole and the board is Ks/9s/7 and you dont have spades, it doesnt mean you should fold, you gotta push because odds are the guy who is calling has the spades and is drawing. So you dont need straight and flush possibilities to stay with a set, you have the hand made, the straight and flush possibilities are what the others are calling your bets to make. So the second rule is partially correct, I like the top set thing and some would say middle set(not so sure about middle set), but the flush and straight part, forget about that part when it comes to the second rule.

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Old 07-08-2005, 04:29 PM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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Default Re: Rules to stay out of trouble

Guess I wasn't clear, but these rules were for limit
omaha, not pot limit. There is no pushing people
off of flush draws.

Suerte,
Jonathan
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