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Old 06-22-2005, 01:40 PM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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Default Set of 8\'s .

This was the second hand of the tournament.
How do you like my line?

Thanks,
Jonathan
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB (t800)
UTG (t745)
UTG+1 (t745)
MP1 (t690)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
<font color="#C00000">CO (t1845)</font>
Button (t790)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t785)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t87.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t65</font>, MP2 calls t65, CO calls t65, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t325</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t260, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t520</font>, Hero raises t445 and is all in, UTG+1 folds, CO calls t185.

Turn: (t1572.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1572.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1572.50
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:45 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

I don't understand the question. You got the money in on the flop when you have a set. Why shouldn't anyone like that line?
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:48 PM
Wes ManTooth Wes ManTooth is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

This has to be a $5sng. Everything is fine, everything got all in on the flop.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:55 PM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

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This has to be a $5sng. Everything is fine, everything got all in on the flop.

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Why does it have to be a $5 sit and go?
Why can't it be a $10 or $20 or $200?
How would the play differ?

Suerte,
Jonathan
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:02 PM
mlagoo mlagoo is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

it was fine.

not a terribly interesting hand though.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:15 PM
Unarmed Unarmed is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

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it was fine.


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I think it sucks. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Lead the flop.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

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it was fine.


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I think it sucks. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Lead the flop.

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Agreed.
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Old 06-23-2005, 06:59 AM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

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it was fine.

not a terribly interesting hand though.

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On the contrary, I think it's a terribly interesting hand
for two reasons:

1. The flop is connected with overcards
2. Its still early...Level 1 or 2 I recall.

Another poster said he didnt understand the point of my
question. The whole point is this:

Do I want to play for all my chips with this hand, on this
flop, at this stage of the tourney?

Thanks,
Jonathan
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:06 AM
Sykes Sykes is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

You have a set. There is 3 possible hands that you lose to and only 2 that you're drawing to 1 out against.

Push it all in. Stop worrying about the levels. Levels only matter if you had a decent hand but not the greatest (i.e, AQ, Q8s, maybe QT)
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:06 PM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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Default Re: Set of 8\'s .

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You have a set. There is 3 possible hands that you lose to and only 2 that you're drawing to 1 out against.

Push it all in. Stop worrying about the levels. Levels only matter if you had a decent hand but not the greatest (i.e, AQ, Q8s, maybe QT)

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The reason I am very sensitive to this is that there were
several posts recently from winning players posting their statistics.
A number of them had a combined 9th and 10th place finishes
of &lt; 5%. I can't for the life of me figure out how they
do it. Here, for example, I flopped a set, my opponent
flopped a straight and I was out in 10th.

While posting this reply, I was playing a hand. I put in a
big raise from late position prelop with JJ and get two callers.
The flop comes J T X rainbow. First player checks, second is
allin, I call allin. Turn X, River K for the straight and again
I am out in 10th place.
Now mabey I am just running bad, and over time my 9th and 10th place finishes
will settle down around 5% too. But I don't see it.

Suerte,
Jonathan
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