Set of 8's .

[Freudian]

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On the contrary, I think it's a terribly interesting hand
for two reasons:

1. The flop is connected with overcards
2. Its still early...Level 1 or 2 I recall.

Another poster said he didnt understand the point of my
question. The whole point is this:

Do I want to play for all my chips with this hand, on this
flop, at this stage of the tourney?

Thanks,
Jonathan

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If you don't want to play for all your chips in this situation, I suspect you may not be a winning player.

[mlagoo]

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it was fine.


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I think it sucks. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Lead the flop.

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Agreed.

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Sorry to resurrect this old thread.

Why is leading the flop better? There are 6 players, and it isn't a rag flop -- it is sure to be bet. It is also a dangerous board, so you don't want everyone coming along (although you don't really want to scare everyone off either).

With a check-raise, you can get out a couple of the lesser draws, and you've got a good chance of someone with a decent draw getting all their chips in against you, which you want in this situation since there are only three hands that beat you, and only one that would have limped preflop.

I guess I'm just asking what you are trying to get out of leading the flop.

[Mr_J]

"A number of them had a combined 9th and 10th place finishes
of < 5%. I can't for the life of me figure out how they
do it."

Mine is 3%. 8th is around another 4%. I'm not super tight early and am happy to get involved in postflop play.

[the_joker]

I think more often than not your opponent will have top-pair, two-pair, an overpair, or a flush draw. You if someone flops an odd straight when you have a set, you are just destinined to lose all your chips.

[tminus]

this one's tough...there's alot going on here

> Preflop - completing with 88 is OK with me, your out of position in a large field
> Flop check - at first i wondered why your slowplaying trips but this is prime checkraise territory with so many people ahead of you
> 1st Flop reraise - absolutely, UTG+1 is bigstack so his flop bet was weak plus he limped preflop so i put him on a high split pair or draw
> Calling reraise from CO - Whats chip leader limping late position that would cause him to flat call and then reraise with? KQ, AQ, maybe 98spades or K9spades...any others??

(I can just see the time bank running out at this point)

So there's a whole pile of non outs in the deck and CO may have very well tied you up in a great trap but you're pot committed man and the pots huge, you gotta call.