Hand against a lunatic bluffer

I Play 2 Ski · #1 07-10-2005, 09:18 AM

Villan is 85/40/4.5 but over only 25 hands. He has shown down garbage in the last few hands. Curious if anybody plays this more aggressively.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, 1 fold, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP folds, Button raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

kidcolin · #2 07-10-2005, 03:27 PM

Has he been 3-betting preflop with garbage, too?

If not, I like how you played it.

If so, I might lead the turn and call down if raised.

sthief09 · #3 07-10-2005, 03:30 PM

I'd checkraise the river

StellarWind · #4 07-10-2005, 03:45 PM

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I'd checkraise the river

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Unless he *calls* the river with garbage I don't see this. OP was not completely clear on this point.

I like the way the hand was played.

sthief09 · #5 07-10-2005, 03:50 PM

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I'd checkraise the river

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Unless he *calls* the river with garbage I don't see this. OP was not completely clear on this point.

I like the way the hand was played.

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there are 4 undercards. he has an 80 VPIP which probably suggests he's going to pay off with any pair or any A

I Play 2 Ski · #6 07-10-2005, 03:59 PM

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I'd checkraise the river

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Unless he *calls* the river with garbage I don't see this. OP was not completely clear on this point.

I like the way the hand was played.

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He does call with garbage, but that fact wasn't known until he showed 64o

I Play 2 Ski · #7 07-10-2005, 04:03 PM

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there are 4 undercards. he has an 80 VPIP which probably suggests he's going to pay off with any pair or any A

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perfect! Exactly what I wished I did when he showed 64o.

StellarWind · #8 07-10-2005, 04:16 PM

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He does call with garbage, but that fact wasn't known until he showed 64o

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Huh? This is not an example of him calling the river with garbage. He was betting.

Some wild players do understand that a bet or raise can always win, but you cannot call the river with nothing. That is the read that is lacking and it is important.

Jeff W · #9 07-10-2005, 04:23 PM

How aggressive are we talking? Raising multiple streets with nothing?

I would 3-bet the flop at the very least.

I Play 2 Ski · #10 07-10-2005, 04:55 PM

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He does call with garbage, but that fact wasn't known until he showed 64o

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Huh? This is not an example of him calling the river with garbage. He was betting.

Some wild players do understand that a bet or raise can always win, but you cannot call the river with nothing. That is the read that is lacking and it is important.

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understood. In the short time of his presence I seen him call down w/ nothing, bet nothing, and then there was this...

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button :#A500AF(ChipSpewingLunatic)/ raises, Hero calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, ChipSpewingLunatic bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, ChipSpewingLunatic bets, Hero raises, ChipSpewingLunatic 3-bets, Hero caps, ChipSpewingLunatic calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, ChipSpewingLunatic raises, Hero 3-bets, ChipSpewingLunatic caps, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has 9d Tc (straight, queen high).
ChipSpewingLunatic has 7h As (one pair, threes).
Outcome: Hero wins 19.50 BB. 

after this hand I had the pleasure of a few more hands before he went broke. This guy was off his rocker.