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Old 04-02-2005, 04:52 PM
jskills jskills is offline
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Read on limper is loose passive.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font> ...

How low of a PP do you do this with, if at all?
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Old 04-02-2005, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Opinions on PF action

against tight blinds this can be done with any pp.
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Old 04-02-2005, 05:43 PM
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i think this is a good move with mid pairs..heads up your in a good position vs all but higher pair...since most people raise jacks and higher and oftern tens..only 77,88, or maybe 99 are trouble.
If high cards flop (esp Ace)be careful of course..so many anyacers out there.
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Old 04-02-2005, 05:46 PM
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I haven't added that to my game yet. I still limp TT and down. Do you fold to any overcard that hits?
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Old 04-02-2005, 05:51 PM
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I haven't added that to my game yet. I still limp TT and down. Do you fold to any overcard that hits?

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You can easily raise TT anywhere although I only do it from MP. Raise 99 in LP with 1 limper and see how you get on.

Raise any PP 1st in from the button or CO.

The flop becomes more tricky with lower pocket pairs so you want 1-2 opponents to try and semi bluff the pot. Many will think you have a much better hand than you do although you will still normally have the best hand
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Old 04-02-2005, 05:57 PM
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nice play, anytime you can isolate one limper with a pocket pair you a huge favorite, they will only pair up about 35% of the time on the flop and you have a position advantage.

Regarding raising pocket pairs, you should Raise TT from anywhere evern UGT, you can also raise 99 UTG as i have started doing, but you need to have pretty good post flop play to do that.
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Old 04-02-2005, 05:59 PM
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hmm..ok this is what i'd do not that I can justify it.
if PF raise leaves me heads up.. if mid face cards hit..eg QT4..then im looking to fold if bet into..people rarely bluff into Q high flop..esp to lead into a raiser..remember your raise looks like high cards to your opponent. But..sometimes esp if ace falls and bets into me..i'll re-raise him..
if he bets out on turn..run away.
if he checks..bet into him AGAIN
if he calls you're prob dead..check behind on river.
hows that for aggressive play...
Brian
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Old 04-02-2005, 06:43 PM
joeski19 joeski19 is offline
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Oops I meant 99 and down. I do raise TT from any position. I'm also learning that it's good to raise if I'm first in with a PP. (tried a few times depending on the table)
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Old 04-02-2005, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Opinions on PF action

Not to any overcard. I think you have to be very careful if an ace hits. If a passive player raises you, you're done of course.

The problem with playing pocket pairs in an isolation play like this is if a passive player flops top pair with a suspect kicker, he's liable to just call you down and you'll throw a couple bets away. I think the play has a little more value at casinos because the opponents are easier to read.
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Old 04-02-2005, 07:10 PM
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I think I raise 88 and up here. I limp with 66. This is because I have weak post flop skills when the flop comes all overcards. What if the blinds come along? Do you fold to a flop bet?(assuming no 6 and two or more overcards)
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