Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Tournament Poker > Multi-table Tournaments
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

View Poll Results: How many total posts do you have?
0-1000 88 53.99%
1000-2000 30 18.40%
2000-3000 24 14.72%
3000-4000 2 1.23%
4000-5000 3 1.84%
5000-6000 0 0%
6000-7000 4 2.45%
7000-8000 3 1.84%
8000-10000 3 1.84%
10000+ 6 3.68%
Voters: 163. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-19-2005, 11:29 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default what\'s the right play?(tough decision)

$25+2 empire NL Tourney. 250 entrants. Down to 26(30 got paid). Blinds are 300/600. Avg stack 10,000. I have 7400. I'm two off the button and it's folded to me. I look down at pocket 8's.

I had been agressive lately but showed down reasonable hands.

Your play?

Comments appreciated
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-19-2005, 11:45 AM
MeanGreenTT MeanGreenTT is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Tampa
Posts: 32
Default Re: what\'s the right play?(tough decision)

I know the "m thing" to do is to push, but I think that looks like a steal to opponents, so I'd raise to 2400, looking to take it down without a fight. Tough decision if faced with a re-raise...
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-19-2005, 11:47 AM
joesbarngrill joesbarngrill is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 30
Default Re: what\'s the right play?(tough decision)

I would raise 3-5x call a push and re raise all in if just raised against most players.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-19-2005, 11:47 AM
Iconoclastic Iconoclastic is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 37
Default Re: what\'s the right play?(tough decision)

I voted Push-your hand has plenty of equity against a calling range (barring reads). A raise and fold would be horrible. Limping is OK too as you have position and if you flop an overpair chances are since no one raised preflop you have the best hand. But if you are raised after a limp you'll have to Push anyway so that's why Pushing in the first place is best. You want to win this pot.

Could you give some feedback on my thread? Thanks

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...14&fpart=1
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-19-2005, 11:54 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: what\'s the right play?(tough decision)

I think it depends on the blinds and my table image here. How have I been playing previously? Pushing a lot? Raising a lot? Shown down good hands? Caught on a steal? Very tight? Have I raised from this position on earlier rounds? How have the blinds/players to my left been playing? Are they thinking players? Tight, Loose? Depending on what I think gives me the most FE in this situation, Ill either raise and call a push or push myself.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-19-2005, 12:42 PM
Dave D Dave D is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Wake Forest University
Posts: 66
Default Re: what\'s the right play?(tough decision)

[ QUOTE ]
$25+2 empire NL Tourney. 250 entrants. Down to 26(30 got paid). Blinds are 300/600. Avg stack 10,000. I have 7400. I'm two off the button and it's folded to me. I look down at pocket 8's.

I had been agressive lately but showed down reasonable hands.

Your play?

Comments appreciated

[/ QUOTE ]

I refuse to answer the question without knowing the size of the stacks to act after me. If everyone has me well covered, I doubt I'm gonna push. If I have everyone covered by a lot, a push seems good here. I don't know, that influences a lot.

I don't quite like a push b/c you're not that desperate yet. I think I like 3-4x the B
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-19-2005, 01:44 PM
jcm4ccc jcm4ccc is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 116
Default Re: what\'s the right play?(tough decision)

[ QUOTE ]
I refuse to answer the question without knowing the size of the stacks to act after me. If everyone has me well covered, I doubt I'm gonna push. If I have everyone covered by a lot, a push seems good here. I don't know, that influences a lot.

I don't quite like a push b/c you're not that desperate yet. I think I like 3-4x the B

[/ QUOTE ]

Easy push regardless of the stack sizes, I think. The only hands you are really worried about are 99 - AA, and how often do they appear with only 3 people left to act (answer: about 7% of the time). Push, and if somebody with a bigger stack calls you, great.

This is especially easy given that you have been aggressive at the table. Hopefully your opponents have been paying attention.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-19-2005, 01:49 PM
Roman Roman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 384
Default Re: what\'s the right play?(tough decision)

Raise 3-4x and call a push.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-19-2005, 01:54 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: what\'s the right play?(tough decision)

I agree that we need more information. If the OP doesnt have any reads, this late in the tourney, about the styles of the people to his left; then we can't help him nearly as much as we could. Under a vacuum, I think I make a 2.5x-3.5x raise and call a push/push a reraise.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-19-2005, 02:31 PM
Dave D Dave D is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Wake Forest University
Posts: 66
Default Re: what\'s the right play?(tough decision)

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I refuse to answer the question without knowing the size of the stacks to act after me. If everyone has me well covered, I doubt I'm gonna push. If I have everyone covered by a lot, a push seems good here. I don't know, that influences a lot.

I don't quite like a push b/c you're not that desperate yet. I think I like 3-4x the B

[/ QUOTE ]

Easy push regardless of the stack sizes, I think. The only hands you are really worried about are 99 - AA, and how often do they appear with only 3 people left to act (answer: about 7% of the time). Push, and if somebody with a bigger stack calls you, great.

This is especially easy given that you have been aggressive at the table. Hopefully your opponents have been paying attention.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not true. If someone has me 4x covered, and looks down at overcards like AJ, thinking "this pusher is being real LAG, I'm probably at worst a coinflip and likely have an ace dominated, I'll take probably at worst a coinflip for only 1/4 my stack".

You've got CO, Button, and the blinds, who have to decide they don't like their hands. specially if you've got a big stack in the blind, he's likely to call.

I personally don't feel the need to trigger a race with ~14 BBs.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.