2-4 flush draw in BM... Dammit...

[JooWish622]

6 handed 2-4 game at BM club in New york. Hero has 400 behind. Villian has 500 behind. Villian is solid. EP is a solid club player 160 deep. Everyone else has around 3-400.

EP limps, MP limps, Hero limps with 96c, Villian limps on Button, SB complete, BB checks.

(pot 24)FLop is QQ4 two clubs. CHecks around to Villian who bets 20, 1 fold, calls up to Hero who calls with the intention of folding a non-club turn and folding a non-club turn of action in front is too heavy. I am fairly certain Villian has a Q.

(pot 120 ish)Turn: 3c. Checks to Hero who bets 60. Villian deliberates, calls 60. Sb, BB fold, EP pushes for 60-70 more, MP folds, Hero raises another 100 on top as I am not sure EP and Villian have Queens, but unsure if I am drawing dead or not. Since I didnt put Villian on Q3 or Q4, I decided to make make it another 100 and make it 160 to call for Villian. If he comes over the top, I can safetly fold, knowing he's filled up.

EP flips over Q3. Now, is the moral of this story to not draw to flushes on paired boards? Or is this one of those times to play because of the money on the pot on the flop/low kicker card combination.

[Allinlife]

lesson: don't draw to 9 high flush OOP in multiway pot.

[Sponger15SB]

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lesson: don't draw to 9 high flush OOP in multiway pot.

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I suck at misclicking....

$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, August 10, 23:07:57 EDT 2005


** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Sponger [ 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
h0tm0mma calls [$2].
pavsek folds.
lilnumies calls [$2].
pauly0033 raises [$9].
Il1Ol2 calls [$8].
Sponger calls [$7].
h0tm0mma folds.
lilnumies calls [$7].
** Dealing Flop ** [ J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]

...to make a long story short...

pauly0033 shows [ T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] a flush, ace high.
pauly0033 wins $226 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.

[fisherman112]

we've discussed this before. you should have been long gone on that flop after the bet and callers (notice the plural), if no one else has a flush draw, you never know which outs are tainted. and even if you make the winning hand there's no value at the river. it was a limped pot, nobody has a high enough q that they'll try to put you on worse trips and call with a 3 flush on board.

[Big_Jim]

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EP is a solid club player

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EP limps

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EP flips over Q3

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Hah. You might want to reevaulate your impression of EP.