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Old 09-16-2005, 01:21 PM
JooWish622 JooWish622 is offline
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Default 2-4 NL. TUrned two pair. Line check?

Hero is playing 2-4 NL on FTP, has 500 behind and has Villian covered. 5 handed. VIllian is an unknown but seems pretty standard. Hero has a laggy image.

Hero dealt A5o in the CO, VIllian is in BB. Hero raises to 12, VIllian calls.

(pot 30). Flop is 56T rainbow. Villian checks, Hero bets 20. VIllian calls.

Turn A: Villian checks, Hero bets 40, Villian raises to 110.
Hero calls.

River: 2. Villian bets 125. Hero Calls. Standard?
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Old 09-16-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: 2-4 NL. TUrned two pair. Line check?

id fold if he doesnt know you to be fairly LAG. If he thinks your a fairly standard player, he's seen your raise preflop, and then you bet out again when the ace comes down.

yet he decides to check-raise you. why would he do that if he may well put you on an ace? becuase he has just a pair of aces beat, and likely A5. id fold on the turn, but i am aggressive when betting but cautious when someone is min raising or check raising me. so id of folded on the turn.
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Old 09-16-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: 2-4 NL. TUrned two pair. Line check?

I haaaaate offsuit ragged aces, even five handed in position. But that's a personal preference. Given that you decided to raise this trash, I think you played it fine, you can't fold the river at that price, and I suppose he could have a slowplayed two pair or just an A (called flop bet with a big A) often enough to warrant a call.
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Old 09-16-2005, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: 2-4 NL. TUrned two pair. Line check?

Seems pretty standard. I don't mind your line at all. You have to call the river for that price. You win against enough of the hands that the villian is on to make it worth it.
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Old 09-16-2005, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: 2-4 NL. TUrned two pair. Line check?

Would anyone think about about folding on the turn?

BTW, if you calling the turn check raise, the river is a standard call.

The decision here is on the turn, not the river imo
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: 2-4 NL. TUrned two pair. Line check?

I never fold the turn here.
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: 2-4 NL. TUrned two pair. Line check?

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I never fold the turn here.

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yeah. i think people are thinking about a fold here because hero probably lost the hand / all that. but i like how it was played and probably would play it the same, although i'd just half pot the flop and not go 20. i like hero's turn bet, and the river action to call is better then raising or folding. whats not to like here.?
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:22 PM
john kane john kane is offline
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Default Re: 2-4 NL. TUrned two pair. Line check?

What hand would he be check raising the turn with which A5 has beat?

Given that the hero has raised 3xBB and therefore the ace is a legimitate scare card.

If the villian had the 10 he is raising on the flop.
The only hand the hero has beat here is 56, unless villian called preflop with 5 10 or 6 10.

whereas he is behind 6A or set 5s or set 6s.

How would the villian play set 5s or set 6s, exactly the way he has played it in this hand.

Im surprised people are so sure of the turn call. It looks as if the villian on the turn is preying on the fact the the hero may of hit top pair aces and now knows he can win big.

Still so surprised people think the A5 is good? maybe it was, but i just cant see other than 56 what the villian is checking raising with given that the ace is a scare card for him.
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: 2-4 NL. TUrned two pair. Line check?

I actually got one players stack with a similar hand tonight. I raised A9s on the button and BB called. Flop was J 9 5 r. I bet a standard continuation bet 2/3 pot. Turn was ace. Now I bet the pot. Villain raised me and I raised him all in (there was not that much left to raise). He called and showed me flopped top two (J9).

Villains often go mad when they see the ace fall after they've hit their miracle flop. They seem to think that Hero will call anything with that one pair, if that's even what Hero has got.
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Old 09-16-2005, 05:58 PM
JooWish622 JooWish622 is offline
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Default Re: 2-4 NL. TUrned two pair. Line check?

Well, its different if the flop was J9x since J9 is a legitmate holding for players more than 6T is so...figure out the implications of that.

Anyway, I lost to A6... f-word.
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