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Old 09-27-2005, 09:41 AM
Jersey Nick Jersey Nick is offline
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At any point a player who is risking his money can leave the game. But "cashing down" during a game...we don't allow it if even a single person objects.

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This is probably the best way to deal with this fish. Tell him straight out, "OK, I'm fine with it... when you want to do it we'll put it to a vote. It's not a democracy, it's a f'in jury dude, if ONE person objects then it's a no-go, you gotta either stand up or leave it on the table."

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Smoore - I'm almost always with you and this was my initial response too. Then I went back to the OP. Dropping 2 full buy-ins in a 1/2 home game playing standard 7 stud, Omaha, Texas & draw takes a lot of work. If the guy is truly that loose, then my inclination would be to allow him to rat-hole his buy-in. He'll be down way more often then he'll be up.

However if they are playing games with lots of wild cards, or Night Baseball, 727, between-the-sheets, then it is more about the GAMBOOOL and I wouldn't allow it. Cheapo will be sucking life out of the game.

We had a player who complained about this too. He's a good friend and it turned out that he was saving up to buy a house. The bride was giving him the frying pan when he came home $50 light. Because it's a friendly game, we offered to lower the stakes to .5/1. We also told him that maybe he should take a break from the game until after he bought his house. Eventually another guy bought him SS and told him to tighten up his game. He breaks even or is only down a little at the end of the night and everyone still has a good time.
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Old 09-27-2005, 09:46 AM
JonPKibble JonPKibble is offline
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Ratholing in a limit game isn't nearly as bad as in a NL game, but I still don't like it.

If the player is a winning player, it's not fair to the other players.

If the player is a losing player, he should simply avoid playing. If you allow him to rathole, that isn't going to prevent him from going broke. When he starts losing more money, where will you draw the line when he starts asking for more "favors"?

If you let this guy rathole, you are treating the symptom, not the actual problem. The problem being that this guy is a lousy player who can't play by the rules. There are enough bad players out there that are more than happy to play poker by the book.
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:01 AM
Zetack Zetack is offline
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Default Re: How do deal with this guy

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Ratholing in a limit game isn't nearly as bad as in a NL game, but I still don't like it.

If the player is a winning player, it's not fair to the other players.

If the player is a losing player, he should simply avoid playing. If you allow him to rathole, that isn't going to prevent him from going broke. When he starts losing more money, where will you draw the line when he starts asking for more "favors"?

If you let this guy rathole, you are treating the symptom, not the actual problem. The problem being that this guy is a lousy player who can't play by the rules. There are enough bad players out there that are more than happy to play poker by the book.

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I don't see this as a player who can't play by the rules. He wants to quit while he's ahead, lots of people like to do that. He didn't come to the table asking to rathole, he only brought that up that idea when people complained about him quitting while he's ahead. Not the same thing at all.
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Old 09-28-2005, 01:32 PM
JonPKibble JonPKibble is offline
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I don't see this as a player who can't play by the rules. He wants to quit while he's ahead, lots of people like to do that. He didn't come to the table asking to rathole, he only brought that up that idea when people complained about him quitting while he's ahead. Not the same thing at all.

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Perhaps I phrased my thoughts wrong. How about, "there are enough players who will play without trying to change the rules."
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