Pot considerations and folding?

FrogMouth · #1 09-23-2004, 10:00 PM

Playing Party $25 NL table last night I the following happened:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 max, 6 handed)

SB ($24)
BB ($11.40)
UTG ($68.50)
MP ($2.45)
Hero ($32.05)
Button ($30.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP folds, Hero raises to $2, Button calls $2, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets $3, BB calls $3, Hero raises to $15, Button folds, SB calls $12, BB calls $6.40 (All-In).

Turn: ($47.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
SB bets $7 (All-In), Hero???

Now, 2 questions:
1) I'm pretty sure I'm beat by the SB at this point, (BB is a Chump) although I'm not 100% on my read as SB has only been at the table for 30 mins or so. What are my pot considerations as to folding the $7 all in bet? Should it be a decision based on gut and read, or should I be considering whats in the pot and how much to call?

2) On the flop, I know I'm ahead at this point and I want to take the pot down here. Should I have gone all in? How should I bet according to my opponents stacks and pot size?

Any other comments are welcome.
Thanks

Justin A · #2 09-23-2004, 11:28 PM

This has to be a call, you're getting like 7:1, and you do have a straight. SB could very easily have the flush, but he could also have a ragged two pair or a set. There's no way you can fold here for such a small bet.

And yes, given the stack sizes you could have pushed on the flop. A pot sized raise puts the SB almost all in, so just shove it in.

Justin A

FrogMouth · #3 09-23-2004, 11:51 PM

I knew it was a big pot, but how do i tell if 7:1 is enough odds, or if I should have say, 9:1 odds?

Thanks for your input!

fimbulwinter · #4 09-23-2004, 11:58 PM

here's how you know, ask yourself this question:

if this identical situation came up eight times, could he hold a hand that i can beat at least once?

being able to answer that question quickly and accurately is what separates ABC players from great ones.