AA - Like my line?

djoyce003 · #1 12-08-2005, 10:15 AM

No real reads on villain at this point other than he's something around 56/15. I haven't seem him do anything particularly noticeful other than general donkiness.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($203.80)
SB ($86.55)
BB ($49.20)
Hero ($66.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, SB (poster) raises to $7.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.

(I felt like reraising here let off some hands too easily and basically defined my hand...didn't want to do that yet). I was putting him on JJ-KK with the reraise given that most people won't reraise without ultra premium hands. I know AKs is out since I have the ace.

Flop: ($16.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $9, Hero calls $9.

About as safe a flop as I could hope for...I doubt he has spades and if he does I have the ace. I figure to call and see what he'll do on the turn...I'm hoping to get it all in there.

Turn: ($34.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $49.45 (All-In), SB calls $29.45.

I was hoping he'd bet big and he did. If he hadn't bet big I was going to bet 25.

River: ($133.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $133.40

pokernose · #2 12-08-2005, 10:28 AM

Against someone playing 56% of the pots, I probably re-raise here. He will probably call.

How was his post flop aggression factor? If he is relatively passive after the flop, I probably just call here to. The spades on the flop are a little scary, so I would raise just about anyone else on the flop.

I'm inclined to go all in on the turn as well (against this type of player), however I don't like it much. That card may a straight and a flush possible. The straight doesn't seem likely, but a flush is certainly possible here. A raise on the flop probably would have given you a better idea of where you are at on the turn.

pokernose · #3 12-08-2005, 10:29 AM

Actually, now that I think about it you probably don't need to be scared of the flush here. The typical play for this type of player would be to check-raise a made hand. I still don't like to get all in with 1 pair, but I think you have to do it against this type of player.

4_2_it · #4 12-08-2005, 10:30 AM

Against a solid, thinking villain you need some deception to extract the maximum. Here I think you can safely raise before the turn. Either pre-flop 3-bet or bump up his CB on the flop. The board isn't scary for you, but it should be for him unless he has K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. What worse hands are calling your all-in bet on the turn? Probably less than call it on the flop and even less that call a 3-bet pre-flop.

djoyce003 · #5 12-08-2005, 10:50 AM

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Against a solid, thinking villain you need some deception to extract the maximum. Here I think you can safely raise before the turn. Either pre-flop 3-bet or bump up his CB on the flop. The board isn't scary for you, but it should be for him unless he has K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. What worse hands are calling your all-in bet on the turn? Probably less than call it on the flop and even less that call a 3-bet pre-flop.

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Actually my thinking was that overcards get away from them if I raise the flop, also if I threebet preflop i'm defining my hand and he's going to get away from most hands other than maybe QQ or KK...but most likely just KK. If he's got KK or QQ not much can fall that's going to scare him off on the turn. My reason for the turn all in is that it looks a little like a bluff or top pair, and if he has a big spade he's probably going to call, even though he's drawing dead to 2 outs probably....he doesn't know that.

Isura · #6 12-08-2005, 11:17 AM

grunching.

I really like it. You got him committed on the turn and I don't see JJ-KK folding here. I like this play with AA only though, I'd probably pop the flop with KK or QQ.

djoyce003 · #7 12-08-2005, 11:25 AM

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grunching.

I really like it. You got him committed on the turn and I don't see JJ-KK folding here. I like this play with AA only though, I'd probably pop the flop with KK or QQ.

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Most def.....not much can fall that hurts me with AA....with the others I have to try to figure out where I am and if i'm up against AA due to the reraise.

beavens · #8 12-08-2005, 11:36 AM

very nicely done.

gh - hope it all worked out for you.

4_2_it · #9 12-08-2005, 12:21 PM

I like your rationale (and your play). I think it will absolutely take some TAG stacks even at NL $200 and $400.

My only question is: Was this the right villain to make this play? Only you can answer that because you have watched his previous play. If the donk will call an all-in pre-flop, then that's Option A.

djoyce003 · #10 12-08-2005, 12:25 PM

I didn't have a read that he would call an all-in preflop. I did think that he might do this with less than say JJ+ and say AK+. I thought the possibility existed that he'd do this with say AJ or Ax, maybe any small PP. I thought he might fold a lot of that to a push though, but honestly he might have called...I just didn't know.