high implied odds?

econ_tim · #1 08-11-2005, 04:42 PM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 7 handed) converter

Preflop: econ_tim is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, econ_tim checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, econ_tim checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, CO folds, SB folds, econ_tim calls.

MP1 is TAA, MP2 is LPP.

MrWookie47 · #2 08-11-2005, 04:46 PM

High reverse implied odds. Fold the flop.

gharp · #3 08-11-2005, 04:46 PM

It's pretty close, but I think it's probably OK to peel in this case. You're getting 7:1 closing the action, and if you hit, anyone with an A will think he's at least splitting and will certainly stick around (and might raise or call a raise). I think you'll make up the 2 BB you need if you hit on the turn.

Edit: I didn't even consider that your T's might be good. I think that tips it to an easier call.

Padawan Learner · #4 08-11-2005, 04:50 PM

Yes. Call the flop with your overcards gutshots getting 7:1 closing the action. Don't fold.

I think there is a decent argument for leading at this flop too, especially if you are planning on calling 1 bet anyway

gharp · #5 08-11-2005, 04:51 PM

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High reverse implied odds. Fold the flop.

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How do reverse implied odds apply here? I thought that would apply more if he had, say AT and was drawing to overs (since someone might have something like A5 already).

MrWookie47 · #6 08-11-2005, 05:00 PM

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High reverse implied odds. Fold the flop.

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Gah, I suck at poker. I only counted "overcards" and not a gutshot. Call's fine. Nothing to see in that first reply. Move along...

Aaron W. · #7 08-11-2005, 05:01 PM

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I think there is a decent argument for leading at this flop too, especially if you are planning on calling 1 bet anyway

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I can't think of one...

droolie · #8 08-11-2005, 05:14 PM

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Yes. Call the flop with your overcards gutshots getting 7:1 closing the action. Don't fold.

I think there is a decent argument for leading at this flop too, especially if you are planning on calling 1 bet anyway

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You still have 3 players yet to act. Do you really want to take the chance of betting and having it raised or possibly reraised when all you have is a gutshot and weak overcards? Your flop bet will take this pot down very rarely as some of them will have overcards to the board and will call or raise. Checking in this spot and waiting to see what develops after you act is automatic.

aK13 · #9 08-11-2005, 05:39 PM

7:1. Fold, since it could be raised behind, and you might chop with another 6 even if you hit, and your implied odds are pretty small since everybody can read a 4 to a straight on the board.

MrWookie47 · #10 08-11-2005, 05:41 PM

He's closing the action, and he only has to make up 2 BB for it to be a good call. That should be pretty easy.

Edit: And his T's are worth something.