No WAY you have that 10!

golfboy7 · #1 11-03-2005, 04:47 PM

good table, party 2/4 table is 28.4/5.8 with 26.27wts

I"m up a couple BB's in a couple rounds and I get this hand.

Villian just sat down and I have no stats on him, I looked in PT when he cap'd the flop.

That being said, should I fold the turn UI? or just go into call down mode?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 5 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (10.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

flopmonster · #2 11-03-2005, 04:50 PM

I would fold the turn

brettbrettr · #3 11-03-2005, 04:52 PM

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Re: No WAY you have that 10!

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Then raise the turn.

brettbrettr · #4 11-03-2005, 04:54 PM

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I would fold the turn

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I'm pleased.

golfboy7 · #5 11-03-2005, 04:56 PM

I thought about taking this line but I would almost HAVE to fold to a 3bet.

So why waste 2 bets only to fold when I can see the hand down for 2?

Any flaws in this logic?

brettbrettr · #6 11-03-2005, 04:59 PM

Depends on whether or not you get paid off by a 4, I guess. Maybe raising the turn is too risky. I don't know. Maybe raising the river is better. Really, I don't know.

Need more a read on this guy who seems to really like his hand.

krimson · #7 11-03-2005, 05:02 PM

I think he has a T a reasonable amount of the time. T's are in a good portion of limping UTG+1 hands like JT, QT, KT, AT, or other slightly looser calls.

I think you can fold the turn, even if you were ahead here which I think is less often then we want, there are a number of outs against us, which tips the decision scale.

private joker · #8 11-03-2005, 05:03 PM

How bad is a flop fold? You might have the best hand, but if not, you're drawing to 2 outs. It's a small pot and you haven't invested more than 1 SB in it. I'd just dump this and move on to the next hand.

#9 11-03-2005, 05:07 PM

With no reads, I call down. I don't see a 10 here often, but it is possible. You will see other pocket pairs quite often. Several of which beat your 77. You may see an unlikely 4. Flush draw on a semi-bluff is also possible. I think with a better read, the turn may be an easy fold, but without a read, I call down.

Edit: I fold the flop. I got caught up in the later streets, but I think the flop is an easy fold.

golfboy7 · #10 11-03-2005, 05:09 PM

he showed K 10 offsuit.

In all honesty, looking at my play, I like private jokers' line the best. I think I took a middle of the road approach with just calling down instead of raising my hand on the turn which one person suggested.

Lesson Learnt....I hope