for letstat

1800GAMBLER · #1 09-08-2005, 09:44 PM

i didn't think this was a big mistake in the hand, i've done the workings now and i'm decided on my play, but anyhow letstat wanted it up.

BB is the donkey from the QQ hand. 50/35/3, he is very very very awful. Other villian is a bit loose and a bit aggro.

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button 3-bets, SB calls, 1 fold, Hero caps, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (15.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB folds, hero ..

Lestat · #2 09-08-2005, 09:52 PM

I think you played this hand well, but I was curious why you gave up the lead on the flop?

I also wanted to find out if you re-raised the river as I believe you should have.

Lastly, I'm interested to hear what other posters think.

arod15 · #3 09-08-2005, 09:57 PM

Raise the river, your ahead more often then not.

tonysoldier · #4 09-08-2005, 10:45 PM

I agree that you're ahead more often then not, but I disagree that you should three bet the river, especially if the button has any chance of laying down a high pocket pair.

Lestat · #5 09-08-2005, 11:11 PM

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I don't understand. If there's anything less than 100% chance he lays down a pocket pair, why wouldn't you raise?

1800GAMBLER · #6 09-09-2005, 09:42 AM

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I think you played this hand well, but I was curious why you gave up the lead on the flop?

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Man i'm confused. You know i have Ace King high and bet the flop right? You want me to cap the flop then take it from there or?

I thought my river decision was between calling and folding, wouldn't it take some kind of insanely stupid person to raise a pocket pair on the raise?

#7 09-09-2005, 10:01 AM

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I think you played this hand well, but I was curious why you gave up the lead on the flop?

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Man i'm confused. You know i have Ace King high and bet the flop right? You want me to cap the flop then take it from there or?

I thought my river decision was between calling and folding, wouldn't it take some kind of insanely stupid person to raise a pocket pair on the raise?

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Your thinking on the river is correct. Raising here would be reckless. Your opponent sees the ace out there just as you do. Youve represented AK, and now hes raising the river. I would call on this board and hope my opponent is an idiot and my hand is good, but i would expect to be shown 77.

1800GAMBLER · #8 09-09-2005, 10:08 AM

77 was my thought too.

stoxtrader · #9 09-09-2005, 10:16 AM

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I don't understand. If there's anything less than 100% chance he lays down a pocket pair, why wouldn't you raise?

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you wouldn't raise because when you are behind it costs you two bets, unless you plan on folding to a cap.

1800GAMBLER · #10 09-09-2005, 10:19 AM

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I don't understand. If there's anything less than 100% chance he lays down a pocket pair, why wouldn't you raise?

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you wouldn't raise because when you are behind it costs you two bets, unless you plan on folding to a cap.

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I can't imagine anyone here wanting to pay off a cap. If we are crazy enough to 3 bet the river it's because he has KK QQ vs 77 AA. The river cap pretty much just shows us his hand.