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Old 11-22-2005, 08:50 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($423)
BB ($396.50)
UTG ($117.60)
MP ($250.40)
CO ($131.25)
TWP ($402)

Preflop: TWP is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, TWP calls $4, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($16) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">TWP bets $15</font>, SB calls $15, BB folds, MP folds.

Turn: ($46) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, TWP checks.

River: ($46) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $13</font>, TWP calls $383 (All-In), SB calls $370.

Final Pot: $812

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Kh Th (flush, king high).
TWP has 8h Ah (flush, ace high).
Outcome: TWP wins $812. </font>
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Old 11-22-2005, 08:55 AM
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Default Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?

hmm. you think he 3-bets you if you raise?
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Old 11-22-2005, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?

Probably, which is why he weak led, probably. But I was 100% certain that he had a flush or a straight and I didn't know it was second nut flush and I knew he was very unlikely to lay down any flush for any bet so why hope he 3-bets when I can just get it all in there myself and he's probably not calling much with the straight which is why he led weakly to fold to a raise or something. This hand was from last night, by the way, not like I dug up some old clunker.
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Old 11-22-2005, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?

yea i guess if he doesnt lay down any flush thats good

with reads its good but w/o i think its just wishful thinking ... sorta like pushing all-in pf over a re-raise with AA hoping he has KK
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Old 11-22-2005, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?

I would push all in with AA against a re-raiser almost every time at NL400. Can't remember the last time I saw someone lay down a hand preflop after re-raising. My assumption is that they will ALWAYS call after re-raising preflop and I really don't think I've been wrong about that more than once or twice in the past several months (and that was maniacs most likely re-raising 76o of something.) And in this hand I had no read other than the fact that he checked the flop and then called my bet very quickly. I had never played with the guy before.

Back on track, I think hero should raise the turn bigger and then push the river.
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