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Old 10-11-2005, 09:02 PM
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Default KK gets donked, or too weak tight?

This is from a Stars $5.50 MTT. Villan seems pretty donkish, but hasn't really played many big hands. I felt dirty after I folded it, but it felt right. Was I wrong?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

Hero (t1650)
MP1 (t2793)
MP2 (t2020)
MP3 (t1045)
CO (t1250)
Button (t967)
SB (t570)
BB (t2045)
UTG (t1140)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t100, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (t245) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (t245) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero bets t150, MP2 raises t1450 to t1600 (all-in), Hero folds.

Final Pot: t245
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:07 PM
LethalRose LethalRose is offline
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Default Re: KK gets donked, or too weak tight?

wow, people have told me they have folded hands like this when i get aggressive, i didnt actually think they were telling the truth.

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Old 10-11-2005, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: KK gets donked, or too weak tight?

bet the flop. The hand will be much easier to play.
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: KK gets donked, or too weak tight?

Fold. The only real hand you beat is QQ. If villain was bluffing, such is life.
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: KK gets donked, or too weak tight?

Huh. Only QQ?
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: KK gets donked, or too weak tight?

Well, a donk doesn't have to have a jack to make that bet. But a donk is also more likely to shove all-in with any big hand. So... I don't know.

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bet the flop. The hand will be much easier to play.

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Old 10-11-2005, 09:21 PM
Pasterbator Pasterbator is offline
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Default Re: KK gets donked, or too weak tight?

umm it's a 5.50. you need to call this. He has A10.
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:22 PM
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5+.50? I can't call fast enough
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:40 PM
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5+.50? I can't call fast enough

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Old 10-11-2005, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: KK gets donked, or too weak tight?

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Fold. The only real hand you beat is QQ. If villain was bluffing, such is life.

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In a 5 buck tourney QQ is the only real hand you beat? Wow. Terrible thinking.

Anyways, bet the flop ... and if you get called, play the turn as a WA/WB situation. There are no draws that he could be on, so I think this is correct.

As it happened, I think its a tough decision. This is the exact way a donk would play a J. They like to slowplay like they see on the television ... and then get all their money in on the turn. However, I really think he could be making this move with a T or a smaller pair as well.

My gut tells me fold, but my chips and the situation tells me to call. Id make this call a good portion of the time.
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