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5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
6 handed 5/10 nl
my hand: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] folded to me on button (1475), SB folds BB calls (covers) flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot: 75) SB checks, Hero bets 75, SB makes it 200 all day, I make it 500 all day, SB calls turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot 1075) SB checks, Hero goes allin for 930 Anyone? Only street I'm confident of is preflop. |
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Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
Uh.. what's the problem? Can't check behind on that turn, so what if he has KQ.
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Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
lookin' good in the neighborhood
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Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
well what range of hands calls turn push that I'm ahead of? Nobody thinks a turn check is okay here?
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Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
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Nobody thinks a turn check is okay here? [/ QUOTE ] WTF? I would either just call his raise on the flop, or more likely, stick it all in. |
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Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
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well what range of hands calls turn push that I'm ahead of? Nobody thinks a turn check is okay here? [/ QUOTE ] Eh, this is results oriented thinging IMO. If you check behnind on the turn are you folding to a push on any card? Doubt it. |
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Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
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If you check behnind on the turn are you folding to a push on any card? [/ QUOTE ] not a jack!!!111 but I think it might be more profitable to call a river push than to push turn myself...another issue is if the flush card comes on river, you could easily be faced with a blocking bet instead of an allin. However, I'm not sure if this is still results-oriented thinking or not |
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Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
In a vaccum this looks fine to me, he probably has a smaller set, JT, or maybe an Overpair on the flop. A mediocre draw probably folds to a flop 3-bet, and big draws probably just sticks it all-in.
An alternative higher variance line (if you don't 3-bet the flop very often)would be to just call the check-raise and push over the top on the turn. This squeezes a little extra value out of him if he decided to get frisky with a draw on the flop and will follow through on the turn when he misses. But of course any [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],7,9,orA will make you a bit uncomfortable on the turn. |
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Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
your 3bet size on the flop screams a monster, moving in is muchhhhhhhhhhhhh better here.
and hey, it solves the whole sticky turn problem as well. |
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Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
i like it.... the NL section of 2+2 is the land of "Overbet Pot Lovers"... i hate almost all over pot bets, i doubt he's calling your raise with kq unless it's the k [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
if he had that draw though, i believe you would have heard back from him on flop, or you would have if it were me.. most of time. |
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