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Old 12-19-2005, 03:48 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Button is 31/23/1.5/45. MP is 48/11/.7/41

Krishan
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:06 PM
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Seems highly questionable to me...the turn cr attempt seems kinda risky.

After checking and faced with two, it seems very close (to me) whether you should call two or 3bet. It's hard to say what will get you the most most often IMO.

I hope you auto raised the non pairing river, at least.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:08 PM
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i like it a lot.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: I get fancy...

If you are going to check the turn then why not check-3bet? MP is likely going to call. Button seems to have a clue based on his stats. No way he calls the raise if he doesn't have a flush and was bluffing. A J flush calls a raise, but might not call 2 back. He will never lay down the K here. If someone does have the K flush, they might give you some action based on your odd line.

What was your plan for the river?
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:11 PM
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I like it, sort of a variation on going for an overcall. If you 3-bet, the button will almost certainly fold the turn. You still get +1BB on the turn this way, but you also have 2 potential callers on the river.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: I get fancy...

dislike strongly. How many players at 10/20 muck flushes? What if he has a set?
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: I get fancy...

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Seems highly questionable to me...the turn cr attempt seems kinda risky.

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Why? And I'm not being terse to be an idiot. I don't want to color your reaction.

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I hope you auto raised the non pairing river, at least.

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Actually board paired on the river and I autoraised anyway.

Krishan
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:27 PM
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Button seems to have a clue based on his stats. No way he calls the raise if he doesn't have a flush and was bluffing.

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If he is bluffing it doesn't matter if I 3-bet or not right? Either way I get nothing from Button. The advantage of calling is I get 1 more bet from weak flushes that will call down but not call 2 down. Also, despite the check raise, MP could still fold to a 3-bet from me.

Also, MP is going to lead the river near 100% of the time. I really don't think I'm going to miss a bet here by MP check calling the river.

Krishan
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:28 PM
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How many players at 10/20 muck flushes? What if he has a set?

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Q1. None.

Q2. Which player? And how much does my line miss out on versus your line?

Krishan
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: I get fancy...

well, my line would be bet/3bet. but you discovered a very clever check, but i dont understand why u didnt 3 bet after. our lines net the same at the end(unless by miracle it goes raise, 3 bet behind and we cap). but if u had 3 bet, ur line would have been better. The player MP looks like he could have a set.
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