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Old 12-23-2005, 03:37 AM
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I'm sure you were never a losing player before, always a winner right from day 1, winning big money, right?

I didn't think so
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:54 AM
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Maybe you should try looking through this forum a little bit more carefully. It's the best poker resource available online and probably the most valuable resource period. Try contributing some of your ideas in other people's posts; you might actually learn something.
Also have fun going to jail after you win the WSOP and dodge taxes.

PS- Telling us about your broken hand and begging for pity is quite a bit more off topic than people discussing taxes.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: Seems like you guys spend more time talking about money than poker

In all honesty, I think OP's intentions were good, but his tone was just abrasive. Yes this is a poker forum and people are at a level where discussing taxes is a serious issue and I think T-cat understands that now. If people wish to continue to hate, please contribute to my Christmas Haiku thread in OOT.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:04 AM
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My friend, said I should come here to talk about poker, that it was a good site to get feedback from other players. So far I think I've asked 2 or 3 questions and no one has been able to provide any real information to my questions.

Most of the posts on here have to do with players dreaming about how much money they'll make next year, what the tax ramifications are, and in general just patting each other on the back for being oh wise poker players,

Just a bit of advice, isn't there a famous saying about not counting your chickens before they hatch? Maybe you should spend more time focusing on poker and less time on your winnings, and in the end you'll see you've actually been focused on your winnings the correct way.

Later, gotta find the answers to some tough poker questions, pretty sure no one on here knows or if they did they wouldn't tell me.

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I'm sorry you feel that way, I do see a great deal of truth to what you are saying. It's important to focus strategy more than "how much money your going to make." I think that many players think about strategy and theory so much that there heads hurt. I'm more fun to think about money. But, you can find actual help!!!! Just ask you questions, and any questions or search for them. Not everyone just wants to poor out there money making tips that have taken extremely long to learn. This forum takes time, just like anything else in the world. But, I guarantee this forum can make you money!!!! you just gotta work for it. If you have a question you can always message me, I'll try not to give you a BS answer!!!
Peace out
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:08 AM
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Default Re: Seems like you guys spend more time talking about money than poker

If the OP would bother to go to the strategy forums then he would see more strategy discussions into every single little freaking detail of the game to certainly satisfy anyone who is trying to learn.


The forum is not that complicated to figure out nor to navigate.



regarding the heads-up match....my money is on lehighguy.

OP seems to have some significant tilt potential just based on these posts.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:17 AM
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Default Re: Seems like you guys spend more time talking about money than poker

Cut your losses and stop pissing people off man. Most people here are very wiling to help you out. Some have, but you didn't read all the posts in your previous threads. So you made a mistake and didn't realize which forum you should be posting in, it's not a big deal. Just move on and try to contribute and learn.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:18 AM
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I'm coming here to learn all I can to be a winning player, be a GREAT player, in 2 years I want to be in the WSOP (2007), in 5 years I want to make the money and after that who knows, but I know I will never stop feeling like I have more to learn and I won't stop to spend the majority of my time counting money, I don't do that when I leave the Casino, I don't worry about money I worry about poker, I think maybe you should too

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what a coincidence.
I too am interested in making a million-gazillion dollars as a great player.



FWIW - worrying about money is what great player should be doing.
Bankroll considerations are extremely important for any aspiring poker-professional

If you weren't worrying about money then you could constantly be taking tons of shots while WAY under-bankrolled like so many Phil Ivey wanna-be's.


Or you can be aware that bankroll considerations as well as playing within your own emotional/psychological tolerance (not playing so high that you are playing too scared or recklessly or whatever) and discuss that aspect too.


It's all important.


Obviously it's also important to just play good poker and play your hands as strongly as possible.
that's why we have SO MANY freaing threads in all of the strategy forums to discuss such things.


OP also seemed annoyed at all the forums in the green-bar.

The reason there are SO MANY strategy forums is precisely BECAUSE we have had so many strategy discussions.
By breaking the forums into sub-groups we are able to direct the traffic a bit better and not have one forum be overwhelmed with too many discussions at the same time.


This was happening most recently in the heads-up/short-handed strategy forum (HUSH). We had 1/2 6-max limit players asking newbie Q's in the same forum that was designated for $20/$40 or $50/$100 6-handed or even 3-handed or heads-up.
Traffic was getting to be WAY too high.

So the moderators broke it up into Small Stakes HUSH and Mid-High Stakes HUSH and I think it has become MUCH better for the higher-stakes experts to have THEIR side and the low-stakes newbie's to have THEIR side where they can continue to learn and develop.


I'm just not sure why OP wouldn't bother checking out the strategy forums instead of just coming here and blasting away.

the idea that there isn't enough strategy discussion on 2+2 is really laughable (since there's actually so much it would be virtually impossible to actually digest it all imo).
However, I do agree that we tend to have a lot of threads that border on the pointless.
Obviously many of these are in the internet-forum and in the other-topics forum (WPT forum too I think).
But if these topics don't interest you then just go to the forum with the content that DOES interest you. It's not that hard.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:28 AM
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I'm sure you were never a losing player before, always a winner right from day 1, winning big money, right?

I didn't think so

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A number of the winners on these forums were winners from Day 1. We approached the game by reading quality 2+2 books, and in stakes we were bankrolled for, and were helped as we started by the amazing amount of information on this forum.

We didn't have to post to get this. We just read strategy posts, hand posts, bankroll posts, bonus whoring posts, anything we could. Hell, I didn't register for months after first visiting 2+2, since I didn't need to post to get the info I needed, I just had to look for it.

And by looking for it, I managed to find 5 related or totally unrelated threads that helped my game on top of the answer to the question I was looking for.

So once I started playing online poker, I was a winner. Before this, I had just played nickel and dime games of 7 Card Stud as Middle and High Schooler, and ignored Poker through my first two years of college.

If you subscribe to the theory that anything worth doing is worth doing right, you will find those sort of people began their poker careers as winners.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:54 AM
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I'm coming here to learn all I can to be a winning player, be a GREAT player, in 2 years I want to be in the WSOP (2007), in 5 years I want to make the money and after that who knows, but I know I will never stop feeling like I have more to learn and I won't stop to spend the majority of my time counting money, I don't do that when I leave the Casino, I don't worry about money I worry about poker, I think maybe you should too

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what a coincidence.
I too am interested in making a million-gazillion dollars as a great player.



FWIW - worrying about money is what great player should be doing.
Bankroll considerations are extremely important for any aspiring poker-professional

If you weren't worrying about money then you could constantly be taking tons of shots while WAY under-bankrolled like so many Phil Ivey wanna-be's.


Or you can be aware that bankroll considerations as well as playing within your own emotional/psychological tolerance (not playing so high that you are playing too scared or recklessly or whatever) and discuss that aspect too.


It's all important.


Obviously it's also important to just play good poker and play your hands as strongly as possible.
that's why we have SO MANY freaing threads in all of the strategy forums to discuss such things.


OP also seemed annoyed at all the forums in the green-bar.

The reason there are SO MANY strategy forums is precisely BECAUSE we have had so many strategy discussions.
By breaking the forums into sub-groups we are able to direct the traffic a bit better and not have one forum be overwhelmed with too many discussions at the same time.


This was happening most recently in the heads-up/short-handed strategy forum (HUSH). We had 1/2 6-max limit players asking newbie Q's in the same forum that was designated for $20/$40 or $50/$100 6-handed or even 3-handed or heads-up.
Traffic was getting to be WAY too high.

So the moderators broke it up into Small Stakes HUSH and Mid-High Stakes HUSH and I think it has become MUCH better for the higher-stakes experts to have THEIR side and the low-stakes newbie's to have THEIR side where they can continue to learn and develop.


I'm just not sure why OP wouldn't bother checking out the strategy forums instead of just coming here and blasting away.

the idea that there isn't enough strategy discussion on 2+2 is really laughable (since there's actually so much it would be virtually impossible to actually digest it all imo).
However, I do agree that we tend to have a lot of threads that border on the pointless.
Obviously many of these are in the internet-forum and in the other-topics forum (WPT forum too I think).
But if these topics don't interest you then just go to the forum with the content that DOES interest you. It's not that hard.

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bob,

im glad to see that the million big bet downswing isnt causing you to reduce the length of your posts. Keep on truckin man.

peace

john nickle
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Old 12-23-2005, 09:36 AM
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My main focus is on poker and improving.

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study, read, play, coach/lessons
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