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Old 09-24-2005, 11:26 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default 2/4NL: My head hurts on every street

Yeah i know..preflop is horrible. Whatever. I decided to limp then call a raise. Turn and river kill me.

Button is a gambler..34/22/2 SB is a tool..horrible player: 59/8/.7

Help me out here.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">SB ($764.90)</font>
BB ($687.40)
UTG ($191.60)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($342.50)</font>
CO ($342.90)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($320.20)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $15</font>, SB (poster) calls $13, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $11.

Flop: ($49) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $40</font>, SB calls $25, Hero calls $25.

Turn: ($169) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50, Button calls $50.

River: ($319) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $100</font>, Hero calls $100, Button calls $215.20 (All-In), SB calls $115.20

Do I just fold even given the price? URG!
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Old 09-24-2005, 11:28 PM
gol4pro gol4pro is offline
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Default Re: 2/4NL: My head hurts on every street

Preflop is bad.... but it's still only about 5% of your stack against a pair of morons.

Flop looks good-- no fold equity in a semi-bluff on this one.

Your stack needs to be in on the turn. Slowplay here is horrible, unless you think the guy behind you raises most of the time.

River...... crying call.
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Old 09-24-2005, 11:39 PM
Spladle Master Spladle Master is offline
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Default Re: 2/4NL: My head hurts on every street

I would usually open-raise pre-flop, but limp-calling isn't bad. Flop I would usually raise against people who like to fold and call against people who like to call. Turn I would raise no matter who was in the hand. What the [censored] were you thinking when you did not raise the turn. That was retarded. River is read-dependent but I think you're getting too good of a price to fold.
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Old 09-24-2005, 11:48 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Re: 2/4NL: My head hurts on every street

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What the [censored] were you thinking when you did not raise the turn. That was retarded.

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I'm thinking I may aleady be behind to SB.
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Old 09-25-2005, 12:05 AM
-Skeme- -Skeme- is offline
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Default Re: 2/4NL: My head hurts on every street

So.. lose less?
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Old 09-25-2005, 12:07 AM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Re: 2/4NL: My head hurts on every street

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So.. lose less?

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fold for $50? Any raise commits my stack.
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Old 09-25-2005, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: 2/4NL: My head hurts on every street

Right, and if you already think you're beat, calling just makes you.. lose less?
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Old 09-25-2005, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: 2/4NL: My head hurts on every street

and you don't push the turn here because?
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Old 09-25-2005, 03:09 AM
Kirkrrr Kirkrrr is offline
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Default Re: 2/4NL: My head hurts on every street

Pre-flop you can raise or limp, either one is fine. There's absolutely no way I'm folding pre-flop to such a small raise, though, 'pecially closing the action and in perfect position post-flop.

Raise the turn to at least 2/3-Pot. If the SB comes back over the top, I guess you're just gonna have to lose your money against a bad player. The hazard of playing smallish suited cards.

The way it played out, you're gettin 8.5:1 on a call on the river, so you can't fold. If it was like 2:1, then a fold here would be more palatable, I think.

Kirk
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Old 09-25-2005, 04:07 AM
Rolen Rolen is offline
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Default Re: 2/4NL: My head hurts on every street

If you're gonna take that turn line, don't bother calling the flop.
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