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Old 08-03-2004, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: QJs in the CO - questions PF and on the Turn

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Limp pf. QJs is a strong drawing hand... why scare people off? Not very strong heads-up.

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he's in the CO, time to stop worrying about scaring off people that aren't there and start worrying about building up the pot with a hand that is gonna win more than its fair share.
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Old 08-03-2004, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: QJs in the CO - questions PF and on the Turn

Preflop - goot

Flop - Standard

Turn - I cap. If he has a better flush so be it. You have position, so it will likely only cost you one more bet unless he is tricky enough to go for a river check-raise.

River - Nothing changed between here and the turn so if you called there you should call here.
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Old 08-03-2004, 08:11 PM
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Cap the turn, raise the river.

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I think this is half right.
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Old 08-03-2004, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: QJs in the CO - questions PF and on the Turn

Shoot, I'll take 1 outta 2.

That's quite a bit better than I normally do. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 08-03-2004, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: QJs in the CO - questions PF and on the Turn

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Cap the turn, raise the river.

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I think this is half right.

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I'm confused.
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Old 08-03-2004, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: QJs in the CO - questions PF and on the Turn

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Cap the turn, raise the river.

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I think this is half right.

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I'm confused.

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cap the turn, call the river if bet into.
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Old 08-04-2004, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: QJs in the CO - questions PF and on the Turn

I guess I'm confused because if I'm going to cap the turn, why not raise the river when a blank hits?

maybe him betting into me even after the turn cap would be a stronger indication (stronger than a turn three bet) that he has the A or the K flush? Thats about the only reason I can think of to only call the river after a turn cap
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Old 08-04-2004, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: QJs in the CO - questions PF and on the Turn

Preflop raise is good, punishing weak limpers, gaining position, getting dead money in (blinds), real good.

Flop: Fine

River: Well, you made your hand, you have the 3rd nut, fcking raise and re-raise.

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Old 08-04-2004, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: QJs in the CO - questions PF and on the Turn

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I guess I'm confused because if I'm going to cap the turn, why not raise the river when a blank hits?

maybe him betting into me even after the turn cap would be a stronger indication (stronger than a turn three bet) that he has the A or the K flush? Thats about the only reason I can think of to only call the river after a turn cap

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yes, nothing changed from the turn to the river. in these situations, you need to decide how many bets you are comfortable putting in. with our position, we can get 4 (as I did), 5 (cap turn, call river), or 7 (raise river, get 3-bet).

you can't choose 6 (unless you fold, which you won't) since you have no control over his option to 3-bet the river. so the choice is between 5 and 7.
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