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Old 11-15-2005, 12:39 PM
lil feller lil feller is offline
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Default Re: PP 20/40 - Back to Basics

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turn check/river call

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Can I just confirm that this line is basically OK as long as two prerequisites exist:

1) We don't know how to deal with a turn raise.

2) Villain will normally bluff the river. This way he pays for his draws with bluffs.

It's allways best to have a plan before you bet, whether that is call down or fold to a raise. Basically the above line is a "plan B" when against aggressive players and we really don't know how to deal with a raise.

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Both very good points. It certainly sounds as if OP doesn't know what to do on the turn once he gets raised, so I'd be inclined to take the opportunity away from the villian by checking what has turned into a marginal hand.

lf
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:01 PM
Dazarath Dazarath is offline
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Default Re: PP 20/40 - Back to Basics

Thanks for the input. I think I should start systematically going through a list like that as well. I tend to just pick an option, but not always because I have good reasoning backing the choice.

lil feller: I usually don't like a check in this situation, because mosr hands that call the flop have 5 outs. This isn't to say I'd never check here, but it's not my standard. I like to try to stay open to different lines, even if it's not my standard.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: PP 20/40 - Back to Basics

I think this is totally opponent dependent. In the old 15/30 before 30/60 expanded - my default would be call down, in the new 20/40 - my default would be fold.
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